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A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister's children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

"They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store," Gualtieri said.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There were 89 shootings in the united states on Christmas day. Source with incident reports for each one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

89 is 0.00002670367% of 333,287,557.

[–] zergtoshi 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Each one of the 89 shootings was one too many.

Any idea how many shootings were on Christmas day in Australia, Canada or Switzerland where a lot of people have guns too?

By the way, if you look at shootings in Australia before and after semi-automatic rifles got banned in 1996 you know how to improve the situation in the US.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

By the way, if you look at shootings in Australia before and after semi-automatic rifles got banned in 1996 you know how to improve the situation in the US.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but you can also shoot people with bolt actions, lever actions; and SA, DA, and S/DA revolvers.

[–] SupraMario -1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Someone in Prague just killed 15 people with a bolt action firearm...

We have an issue with our society, not our firearms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you have an issue with your society and with firearms.

[–] SupraMario -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Our firearms have been around for a lot longer than we have had these recent mass shootings issue...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Firearm technology (and perhaps accessibility?) has been increasing since the earliest firearms in the US. I wonder how guns per capita has been changing (if at all), too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where did you see that it was a bolt action rifle? I couldn't find any real details on the weapons used. I'm looking for sensible gun policies to advocate for in the US and a mass shooting with a bolt action refutes my "limit the rate of fire" idea.

[–] SupraMario 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There is a video out there, and it shows him cycling the action. It was basically a dressed up hunting rifle he used.

If you're actually wanting to solve our violence problem, you go to the root of our societies issues, not the tool used. All of these things below would curb our violence as a whole 1000xs more than any new gun control can.

We can start with:

  • Single payer healthcare

  • Ending the War on Drugs

  • Ending Qualified immunity

  • Properly funding our schools and not just rich white suburb schools.

  • Build more schools and hire more teachers for proper pay so the class room sizes aren't 30-40 kids for one teacher.

  • UBI (at least start talking about it) once AI takes over most of the blue collar jobs.

  • End for profit prisons

  • Enforce the laws already on the books

  • Make sure there are safety nets for poor families so the kids don't turn to violence/gangs to survive.

  • Increase the minimum wage

  • Recreate our mental healthcare so kids don't turn to the internet for support. And to help veterans not end up as a suicide number.

  • Actively make a law to solidify Pro-choice rights. More unwanted children do not help our situation.

  • Banning Insider Trading for Congress

  • Term limits

  • Ranked Choice Voting so we can move away from a 2 party system

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Does it not seem reasonable to take away guns while we solve our society issues ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

See, if it were 90 I could understand you being upset..., but it's just 89! are we really going to make a scene about 89 totally avoidable deaths ?? when we could just enjoy Christmas with the children we might lose tomorrow ?

(thanks for the source)