I see your argument that thinking how a pig in a meat factory feels is just speculation, but there is a point where we have to think about the future and speculate what could be and how possible it is. If we have better options now, and, maybe not as a single human, but collectively can act to stop this harm with a great possibility, I think it's worth it to speculate. I don't no where you draw this line, but it is beyond mine, so I am willing to speculate that this is the better way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

thinking how a pig in a meat factory feels is just speculation

that's not what i'm saying here. i'm saying that they could be experiencing an immense amount of suffering, but we can't know if that is saving the world from an even greater suffering sometime in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And I would say that I am ready to speculate, that stopping this suffering does not conclude to more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

you can't really know, though. the model you presented for right behavior precludes you from ever knowing if you're doing the right thing.