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In a tense game of chicken, remarkable for its mix of petulance and audacity, congressional Republicans are threatening to halt U.S. aid to Ukraine—guaranteeing a Russian breakthrough and possible victory in that war—unless Democrats help pass a bill that all but locks down America’s Southern border.

If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year, the Ukrainian army could run out of ammunition. President Joe Biden could resupply the arsenal from U.S. stockpiles without legislative approval, but the move would be temporary, and the signal sent—that Ukraine, and by implication other allies, can no longer count on U.S. support in a pinch—could be a holiday cork-popper for Russian President Vladimir Putin and all of our other adversaries.

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[–] psycho_driver 47 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm surprised stopping immigration is so high on the Republicants handlers lists right now, considering there's not enough people willing to work menial jobs as-is and that doesn't seem to be changing.

[–] pastaq 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They found a loophole. They don't need adults to do those jobs anymore. Unaccompanied minors aren't turned away at the border and multiple states are removing child labor laws. Now we have unaccompanied immigrant children working fun time making cars in Ford and GM factories, Cheerios, and all sorts of other things for pennies, all here in the US.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't working for Ford or GM. What the fuck with this? Even if the companies wanted to, the unions wouldn't stand for it. I'm going to need a reputable source for this.

Edit: Or downvotes. That's a perfectly reasonable way to respond to doubt and incredulity.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their example was a bit simplistic. They are working in the supply chain and several other, less unionized, industries like meat packing and processed food.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What the OC said and this are not at all the same thing. You're right. They'll be in B2B companies and construction and food service. But what OC explicitly said was "in Ford and GM factories" and "making cars."

It might be fair to say this of any big company who has B2B workers working in their factories. A lot of companies outsource janitorial services for example and could have kids in them. But a company like GM or Ford doesn't want to get their hands dirty by directly hiring illegals, and the UAW would never stand for an outside company doing work the union could do.

Of all the defensible examples they could've used, those two are the least likely to be implicated. Hence my incredulity. If they have a beef with the auto industry or American automakers, this was the wrong thread to pull them out as the go to bad guy.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 6 months ago

Absolutely. I just wanted to provide better examples.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Who removed child labor laws?

[–] Daft_ish 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

sarah huckabee sanders for one.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

They just removed the requirement to get a permission slip from the government. They didn't change anything else. Still the same regulations.

[–] Mirshe 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Illinois now allows children as young as 14 to work without parental approval.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Can you show me? Everything I see suggests a parent is required for the cert.

[–] makyo 22 points 6 months ago

The free market / capitalist part of the GOP is dead and gone. They don't care about labor, the budget, spending, anything - they just care about getting power and keeping power. They also don't really intend to do anything they claim to care about, it's all just about fluffing up the base.

[–] Maggoty 14 points 6 months ago

The faction of Republicans that now firmly control the House have ties to Russia. Don't forget all the stuff we've learned in the last 7 years. This isn't good faith.