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In a tense game of chicken, remarkable for its mix of petulance and audacity, congressional Republicans are threatening to halt U.S. aid to Ukraine—guaranteeing a Russian breakthrough and possible victory in that war—unless Democrats help pass a bill that all but locks down America’s Southern border.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't working for Ford or GM. What the fuck with this? Even if the companies wanted to, the unions wouldn't stand for it. I'm going to need a reputable source for this.

Edit: Or downvotes. That's a perfectly reasonable way to respond to doubt and incredulity.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their example was a bit simplistic. They are working in the supply chain and several other, less unionized, industries like meat packing and processed food.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What the OC said and this are not at all the same thing. You're right. They'll be in B2B companies and construction and food service. But what OC explicitly said was "in Ford and GM factories" and "making cars."

It might be fair to say this of any big company who has B2B workers working in their factories. A lot of companies outsource janitorial services for example and could have kids in them. But a company like GM or Ford doesn't want to get their hands dirty by directly hiring illegals, and the UAW would never stand for an outside company doing work the union could do.

Of all the defensible examples they could've used, those two are the least likely to be implicated. Hence my incredulity. If they have a beef with the auto industry or American automakers, this was the wrong thread to pull them out as the go to bad guy.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. I just wanted to provide better examples.