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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Yup. With Biden openly backing militaristic policing, there's no chance of meaningful change.
Also, isn't this exactly the kind of authoritarianism that Texans routinely support?
What?
You're going to have to be more specific.
What am babbey maid from?
I've never hit the upvote button so hard in my life, you hilarious SOB. Thanks for that.
This doesn't sound like what you're describing..
Quote taken from here https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/09/29/a-proclamation-on-national-community-policing-week-2023/
Nice try: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-fund-the-police-biden-says-at-state-of-the-union
A shame dead victims can't eat your excuses.
Clearly you didn't read the article.
This is a Texas-initiative to create Texas-sized problems out of molehills. They group all sorts of arrests together into their OLS statistics regardless if it has anything to do with it.
What is President Biden's involvement in causing these vehicle deaths of individuals uninvolved with any crime whatsoever?
Sure there are a lot of insane Abbot supporters but it's a big state, for example you can't paint Austin and Lubbock with the same brush.
Which is also why it's OK, because it's mostly Texans the cops kill.
I do feel sorry for the immigrants though.
Edit:
Sorry this is bad taste, and I don't really mean it. But for Fs sake, why do so many people support the insanity and inhumanity in states like Texas?
Hey, some of us were born here and have no way of getting out. That’d be the vast majority of us that live in the metro areas.
Maybe you are not a Texan in your heart?
I don't quite get why you can't get out though. There is freedom of movement among all states of USA AFAIK.
I understand if you want to stay close to friends and relatives, but surely the possibility exist to move to a less dystopian state.
But as long as you are there, be sure to vote against the Republican insanity.
It can be a pretty big financial undertaking to uproot your life and move to another state. Not everyone has the savings to do that without severe risk to their basic needs.
Also it can be emotionally challenging to move away from your friends/family.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Yeah, I’m broke. I had to wipe out what little savings I had just to move to another apartment down the street. There’s no way I could move elsewhere without the support of my family.
OK, I've been at the bottom here in Denmark, and I've moved twice across the country during that period. But in Denmark we get help you probably don't get in USA.
I seriously hope things improve in USA, because it's ridiculous that people have to struggle like they do in one of the worlds richest countries.
Across the country of Denmark lol. Well done.
Lmao right? Texas alone is 3 times as wide as Denmark. If you were to move from say Dallas to Los Angeles, you'd be moving about 1500 miles, or 6 Denmarks.
Blue states need to setup refuge camps for people like you rather than have states fight over who can give billion dollar businesses the best tax break.
Red states couldn't outcompete and brain drain is a longer term strategy than corporate welfare.
People can escape North Korea but you can’t get out of Texas?
A person can escape out of North Korea, but not their family. People are tied to places for more than just their own lives being stuck there. It takes quite an incentive for most to move away from those they care for and who care for them.
No, I think it’s incredibly difficult which is why I know people in Texas have it comparatively easy and can’t use the excuse of there being “no way of getting out”.
Money, bruh, and not nearly enough of it. I have trouble paying rent, much less moving to another state.
bwahahaha what the actual fuck is this shit supposed to mean? honestly, citations, now, otherwise gonna relegate you to the pile of hyperbolic shitposters where you belong
Mr or Ms FlashMob provided a fine citation, which I'll reprovide.
Mr Biden is not Donald Trump, which is why millions of us voted for him, but he's completely pro-police.
That article is not support for your premise. If anything, it's milquetoast bullshit. Nothing which supports Openly Militaristic Policing. First off, we can totally support the idea of better trained cops. Shit trained cops is 90% of the fucking problem. If cops can't make it through rigorous training they shouldn't wear the badge. Perhaps better trained police will step in when their mates decide to murder people more often.
The defund the police crowd painted themselves into a corner and now want to drag the Dems into it with them. Dems as a whole didn't sign up for that shit; vague, nebulous war cries with no actionable objectives are the fucking problem, and you'll never convince people that law enforcement is completely unnecessary. I even believe we could do away with a substantial portion of law enforcement if we'd fund mental health and rebuild sanitariums, but then you're just returning to institutionalization as a 'fix' when it's actually just imprisoning the mentally afflicted.
And here were are, once gain, explaining: there aren't easy answers, and there are few right answers, but holy fuck are there a lot of wrong answers out there people just love to latch on to.
To the feds "we are independent Texas Tough" , "Join the national grid? screw you!" , "our state, our decision to remove womans rights!" "Don't tell me feds!!"
To Biden "pwease help us and secure our bowder... we suck at it"