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[–] LordOfTheChia 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Better analogy would be the killer in uvalde using a kid as a human shield while also shooting into the other classrooms trying to kill other kids.

Do you shoot back or do you sit around like the cops did and wait till the killer gets bored, runs out of ammo, or runs out of victims.

Just look up how many thousands of rockets and mortars Hamas has launched at seemingly random targets in Israel since October 7th.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Better analogy would be the killer in uvalde using a kid as a human shield while also shooting into the other classrooms trying to kill other kids.

Sure, and then you bomb the school to kill them all. Also bomb all the surrounding buildings just in case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The movie Blazing Saddles has a scene where the protagonists threatens himself as hostage. It worked. Movie Clip Not Censored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTNJUjsNKVk&t=153s

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[–] Masterchief117 11 points 1 year ago (19 children)

The “rockets” you’re referencing aren’t the threat you’re trying to invoke. How many Israelis have been killed by Hamas rockets ever much less since October 7th? Maybe if Israel didn’t have a concentration camp outside of their city walls they wouldn't have to worry about the threat of retribution?

Better analogy is the Uvalde shooter also starved and killed kids in the school for generations. Then some of the starving children started throwing sharpened pencils.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just look up how many hundreds of thousands of Palestinians Israel has killed in the last 30 years. Israel is the bad guy here, it's not debatable.

[–] hydrospanner 7 points 1 year ago (19 children)

the bad guy

Why does there have to be a singular "the" bad guy?

And why the need to lump a huge group together to lay that blame?

The Israeli government and Hamas both share the blame for all of this, among others.

As is too common in the world, while a relatively small group deserves the blame, many more, on both sides, suffer the consequences.

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[–] NightAuthor 4 points 1 year ago

No but you see, if you’re homeless and the authorities tell you to take shelter in my house, and then you start killing my family members to try and take over the house… if I defend my house… I’m the bad guy bc you where homeless before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just look up how many thousands of rockets and mortars Hamas has launched at seemingly random targets in Israel since October 7th.

Now, if only both parties would just cease firing for a moment. Has anyone thought of that? And if: has any governmet refused to offer/accept such ceasing of firing? /s

[–] Rakonat 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you think you can get Hamas, an organization who states goal is to kill every Israeli, to agree to an abide by a cease fire, go for it. Their current track record speaks volumes to the contrary

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's a better idea give Hamas new recluits /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  1. Good job dehumanizing "the enemy". That way, you can legitimize any war crime. If you think that Hamas is such a non-human entity, why are the hostages not already considered dead?

an organization who states goal is to kill every Israeli

[Citation needed]

To be clear: I'm definetly not rooting for the authoritarian regime of Hamas. Their leaders should drown in the blood they spilled.

[–] NightAuthor 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oopsie. Thank you