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Both the president and his reelection campaign are going after his coup-attempting predecessor even before the first GOP primary ballots are cast.

A full year out from the 2024 presidential election and nearly two months before Republicans cast their first primary ballots, President Joe Biden and his campaign are assuming that Donald Trump will be his opponent and have already started reminding voters why they threw him out of office in the first place.

Biden personally has stepped up criticism of his coup-attempting predecessor and is framing the likely rematch as one that will determine the survival of American democracy.

“The same man who said we should terminate the rules and regulations and articles of the Constitution — these are things he said — is now running on a plan to end democracy as we know it,” he said last week at a fundraiser in Chicago.

“This next election is different. It’s more important. There’s more at stake. And we all know why: Because our very democracy is at stake,” he told a San Francisco audience on Wednesday.

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[–] OrteilGenou 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Question for my American friends out there: any worry about the current clusterfuck in Congress making an end to "Democracy as you know it" seem more palatable than people might realize? Just struck me as a potentially two-edged argument, especially to Republicans who are watching their own party implode.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A big reason why Hitler rose to popular authoritarian power was because the Weimar Republic's government was deadlocked and ineffective

[–] afraid_of_zombies -1 points 1 year ago

The US is much larger, the government is much older, and the states have much more power.

[–] JigglySackles 11 points 1 year ago

Not really because the alternative is controlled by the lunatics that have seeped into our current system and are the worst offenders in ruining it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Congress actually just did something that feels like it hasn't happened in a while - they passed a budget bill with bipartisan support, effectively ignoring the right wing nut jobs. Granted it's only a temporary budget bill, not even for the full year, but the fact that they were able to get both parties aboard to sign it is actually a good sign. The House passed that bill with at least 2/3rds approval.

It's refreshing to see Congress not being held hostage by a minority wacko subgroup. Hopefully it continues.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -1 points 1 year ago

I am not concerned. We have had much worse in our history. If you want anti-democracy look at literally any time in US history from colonial days to the 1970s. Even now it is a far from perfect system.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I personally don't see that happening. To make any real drastic changes on the destroying democracy level you would have to throw away the Constitution, and I really don't see that happening.

We also have a pretty heavily armed society, so with anything that crazy I would expect some fight back from civilians and military against the government, and hopefully that's enough of a deterrent to not even try.