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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

She's never been afraid to speak her mind. How do we address the issue of climate change, if we turn a blind eye to the suffering of innocent people and children done intentionally for vengeance's sake?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

War is terrible for the climate. All that extra fuel burning, and in machines not designed to do it efficiently

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Not to mention all the destruction of farms, the poisoning of water sources, all the destroyed vehicles and rotting corpses of men and animals alike laid everywhere.

They will be calling this the 2nd Nakba. Not only is it a massacre of the people, the Palestinians last remaining lands have been salted. Gaza looks like Stalingrad.

It is an entirely man made disaster. Or state made disaster if you will.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well focus is generally useful for getting things done so one way to address climate change would be to stick to climate change discussion at climate change discussion events.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Want to sabotage a protest? Encourage advocacy for increasingly tangential issues. Focus splits, folks start disagreeing on new issues, folks start disagreeing on how issues get prioritized, everything falls apart.

Sadly, this doesn't even require a malicious actor encouraging it. Well-meaning folks see a potentially sympathetic audience for their pet issue and boom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] galloog1 24 points 1 year ago

Nothing builds a coalition as effectively as insisting that you absolutely must include a controversial but completely unrelated topic in the effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

At some point an acute issue takes precedence over your long term goals. These are pretty wild hyperbole, but I acknowledge I am trying to paint an image.

Let's say you were an activist for the welfare of cattle. But then you find out chickens are hooked up to a new feed system that increases their weight by 20% but also causes them excruciating neurological pain, to the point the chickens are even trying to peck themselves to death to avoid the torture. Would it not make sense to pivot for a moment to the worse animal cruelty for a while? The cows aren't going anywhere.

Let's say you were an activist for climate and a nation state was running towards genociding an entire group of people. Would it not make sense to pivot to the genocide speed run for a while? Climate change isn't going anywhere.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Those are two separate and unrelated issues, and should be treated as such.