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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"would have to be quite powerful" doesn't mean it's not feasible?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much. For it to be effective as a relay it would need some large dishes and a large power supply (large solar array) plus a good amount of propellant for station keeping.

So it would be a quite expensive option when it is only really required for a few weeks a year.

Also with the mass it would likely have to be I doubt there was a heavy lift rocket that could do the job in recent times until Falcon Heavy came along.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

plus a good amount of propellant for station keeping

Aren't L4 and L5 naturally stable points? A large propellant budget shouldn't be required for station keeping.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They are much more stable than other locations but are not completely stable, so station keeping is required. In a theoretical two body system Lagrange points would be perfectly stable but that is not the case with the solar system. Eg: The orbit of the moon ever so slightly effects the Sun - Earth Lagrange points.

The JWST is a good example. The expected observational lifespan of the telescope is based on how long it is able to remain at L2.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The JWST is a good example. The expected observational lifespan of the telescope is based on how long it is able to remain at L2.

I thought L1, L2, and L3 were unstable but L4 and L5 were stable. Hence why asteroids and other detritus tend to collect at L4/L5.

Edit: Huh, it looks like the stability of L4 and L5 are dependent on the mass ratio of the two bodies. The ratio works out for the Sun-Earth system, so it should also work for the Sun-Mars system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But is it necessary?

If Musk ever gets to Mars the lack of communication for two weeks will be the best part of the project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should try something with magnets.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to agree with this but I don't know enough about how magnets work to reasonably dispute it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No one knows. That's why we should try.