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Eighty national public health groups, including the American Heart Association, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American College of Preventative Medicine, placed a full-page ad in Sunday’s edition of the Washington Post in support of a federal ban on menthol in cigarettes and all flavored cigars.

“The answer is clear,” the full-page ad says. “Saving lives starts by ending the sale of menthol cigarettes and all flavored cigars.

“Smoking kills nearly half a million people in the United States each year, and these addictive, deadly products are a big part of the problem. The FDA and White House have our full support to release lifesaving rules prohibiting menthol cigarettes and all flavored cigars.”

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We see fewer and fewer of the adults you mention with each passing day.

I recall as a child seeing adults smoking all the time. Now it's a rare occurrence.

At the very least the age should be raised to match alcohol.

Jesus fucking christ, you people...

[–] ByteJunk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the takeaway is that the health warnings are right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you read?

The takeaway is that we don't need further legislation against smoking. His use of the word 'plenty' isn't accurate of reality.

[–] ByteJunk 2 points 1 year ago

We definitely need laws regulating salt intake, that much will kill you bro.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/style/smoking-cigarettes-comeback.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Yet, in 2020, for the first time in two decades, cigarette sales increased.

That's not just an unsubstantiated "feeling."

At the very least the age should be raised to match alcohol.

Jesus fucking christ, you people...

"You people" as if you know me.

In any case, the whole point of alcohol being 21 is that by 21 A) you're not talking to that many people who are still in high school/not yet 18 and B) you should be making better decisions.

Which has a net effect of lowering the amount of people that engage in these behaviors, because it doesn't spread as much in high schools.

Now, maybe that doesn't work as well as "we" (society) thinks, but if we still think it's a good idea for alcohol it absolutely should apply to cigarettes and vapes. Vaping was supposed to help people stop smoking, not create a whole new problem.

If you're smoking cigarettes, and you're proud or happy with that decision as an adult, you are an outlier among outliers. I can't say I've ever met someone that smokes cigarettes that hasn't tried to completely quit at least once (with the exception of the guy who believes "they're completely safe" despite all the information to the contrary).

This isn't alcohol where the majority is split between people that happily consume alcohol in small quantities vs a subset of alcoholics. This is a thing where it's universally harmful to the smoker, to the people around them, to the environment (cigarette butts), etc. It's also much more addictive than alcohol and marijuana where people need smoke breaks. It's just a regrettable mess from when society didn't know better.

[–] Witchfire 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cigarette filters are also fucking gross compared to joints, assuming you aren't using weird fancy shit for your joints. Joint filters are rolled up paper and biodegrade rather quickly (technically the whole joint is easily biodegradable). Cigarette butts last forever.

A friend tossed a cigarette butt into our bonfire last weekend and it turned the flames green lolol.

[–] Zippit 1 points 1 year ago

Me. I never even attempted to quit smoking. I know it kills. And I want to be left alone and not harassed by other people as if they're saving my life or something.

It is my choice.