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9,227 -- The number of Palestinians killed in Gaza.

144 -- The number of Palestinians killed in the West Bank.

1,400 -- The number of people killed in Israel.

24 -- The number of Israeli soldiers killed since the start of the ground offensive.

23,516 -- The number of Palestinians injured in Gaza.

2,200 -- The number of Palestinians injured in the West Bank.

5,400 -- The number of Israelis injured.

250,000 -- The number of Israelis displaced.

More than 1.4 million -- The number of Palestinians displaced in Gaza.

At least 241 -- The number of soldiers and civilians being held hostage in Gaza.

5 -- The number of hostages released or rescued.

421 -- The number of aid trucks let into Gaza.

33,960 -- The number of residential units destroyed in Gaza.

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[–] Ejh3k 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck Isreal. I got no problem with Jewish people, but that country can kick fucking rocks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally agree. Being anti Israel does not equate anti semitism.

[–] timewarp 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but the media sure loves to shout antisemitism any chance they get. I saw an article today claiming Rep. Rashida Tlaib is antisemtic for tweeting:

From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.

Imagine calling someone antisemitic for calling for equality and peace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Do some cursory research into the history of that slogan. It originated as a call for the genocide of Israeli Jews.

Trying to reclaim it now as a "peaceful liberation protest" slogan would be like trying to reclaim the Nazi salute. Only an antisemite would attempt either.

[–] PopOfAfrica 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What bothers me is the conflation of Judaism to a race.

I DO have problems with Judaism as I do with all other organized religion. Idk what a white guy like Netanyahu has to do with anything though.

"Jewish" is not a race.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Would that it were. Jews benefit from white privilege, however the identity is not just a belief. Antisemitism frames jews as non-white and thus, jews face unique race-like prejudice other white people don't. It's nit like nazis look the other way when a jew converts to Christianity, they see "jewish" as a blood type. Similarly there is nothing real about race, until white supremacy enforces a hierarchy based in it.

(Edit: note, none if this is a defense of the ethnostate of israel)

[–] PopOfAfrica 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I completely agree with you. I think it's actually falling into the Nazi propaganda to believe that the Jewish people are a race.

Ideally, we should stop defining culture by race.

As such as equally reductive to define it by religion, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judaism is a religion but "Jewish" is an ethnicity that unfortunately happens to share a lot of the same terminology as the religion. A whole lot of Jews don't practice Judaism.

[–] PopOfAfrica 4 points 1 year ago

Right, and I think that classification is erroneous and should not exist.

Race as a concept is already kind of dumb, but tying it to any sort of religious ethnicities is also dumb.

[–] Something_Complex 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is only debate about that because of thousands of years of persecution very particular to Jewish history.

Being that it is one of the few religions that only survived (not because of temples and cities) because they wrote down their customs in a few books that also allow you to criticise and debate about what is written.

So the only reason why Jewish people survived in certain points was not by grabing on to religion but yes to the culture.

So the it's like they where a country without borders or physical location, but the books provided the sense of unity normal countries have, like Spain or Finland, but nearly in written

[–] PopOfAfrica 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, but that's true of a lot of religions. Even Scientologists have a culture that transcends borders, but I don't think we should be making a Scientologist state.

I really think people are underselling the dangers of religion just because it is popular to like this religion right now.

Theocracy is bad regardless of who perveys it.