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[–] TheFonz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

First it was people of color. Then it was marriage across races. Then it was women having the right to vote. The the homosexuals. And now, here we are, it's those dangerous trans. It's always masked as an "assault on truth" tho inn'it?

[–] cricket98 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I personally don't really think racism/homophobia are that comparable. Being trans is something that requires other people to participate in. The former situations do not. In order to believe that transgender women are women, you need to believe that woman does not mean adult human female. That's where a lot of the fundamental disagreements arise from.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In most cases it doesn't matter what you believe though. The bare minimum of not being aggressive and transphobic would be great for a lot of people.

[–] cricket98 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, I don't want anyone to feel aggressed. But I think things get tricky when you start talking about topics like trans women in female sports, in female jails, etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's true.

I personally try and avoid any discussion about that, so I don't have to take a stance.

I have nothing against Trans people, but I recognize that it could be a problem in sports. Fortunately I don't care about sports, so I don't have to figure out if it's a problem or not.

For jails, maybe start with a prison that's respecting the persons identification and if (and only if) trouble arises, you could move them elsewhere.

And gendered bathrooms just seem stupid imo. Do mixed bathrooms with real walls (like we often do here) instead of shitty stalls and put urinals in a separate walled off section towards the back or something.

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