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Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell bluntly warned Republican senators in a private meeting not to sign on to a bill from Sen. Josh Hawley aimed at limiting corporate money bankrolling high-powered outside groups, telling them that many of them won their seats thanks to the powerful super PAC the Kentucky Republican has long controlled.

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[–] Salamendacious -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hawley did not torture, rape, and kill children. False analogy.

[–] halferect 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you hand Gacy the knife he kills his victims with knowing that the only reason to have this knife is to kill kids are you not culpable in gacys crimes? Hawley kills kids. Or you tell people to go commit a violent insurrection and commit crimes are you not responsible for the crimes they commit?

[–] Salamendacious -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care for Josh Hawley. I wouldn't ever even consider voting for him. I'll be happy if he's voted out of office but comparing him to John Wayne Gacy isn't intellectually honest and you'll never convince me otherwise. 100% False analogy.

[–] halferect 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point was more things that appear not evil can actually be inheritly evil. You said he isn't evil, and outside he maybe seems like a normal guy but in the end he is inheritly evil.

[–] Salamendacious -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said he isn't evil incarnate and I stand by that. I think that there are people who can murder and torture without remorse and I'd describe those people as evil. Then there are people I disagree with. On a lot of stuff. But I don't think they're evil. I think they're misguided. I know people who have made mistakes in their life and then years later they regret their actions. Evil is a strong word that I don't like throwing around flippantly.

[–] halferect 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah he isn't the devil come to earth, I'll agree to that. But he might be a very patient demon.

[–] Salamendacious -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] halferect 1 points 1 year ago
[–] halferect -1 points 1 year ago

Banality of evil

[–] eran_morad 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Complicity and profit at the expense of murdered children means something, innit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hawley was elected by people who are against gun control. If he didn't exist they would have elected someone else who is against gun control. Equating him to someone who literally raped and murdered children is insane.

[–] Salamendacious -1 points 1 year ago

Raping, torturing, and murdering children then burying them in your crawlspace is different. It's a false analogy. You're not going to convince me otherwise and downvotes don't bother me.