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Netanyahu told to ‘quit now’ as ex-leaders pin blame on dysfunctional government
(www.theguardian.com)
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Wow. Going to war while telling your leader to quit. That's leaping off without a parachute.
This is as much war as US' war on terror.
Everyone is wondering how Israel missed it, there are even theories that he knew about the attack and let it happen to increase nationalist sentiment and secure more power. He just didn't know it will be this bad.
He deserves to be removed, but he will fight to stay because he has no shame.
The war is BECAUSE of Netanyahu. Yes he should quit. Israelis replaced Golda Meir for her governments failures during wars.
No, this war is happening because Palestinian terrorists murdered Israeli babies in cold blood. They are human beings with agency. They made a decision to murder innocent people. No one else. There are no reasons, excuses, or justifications for their behaviour.
Was there ever a source on that baby murder story? Because we have shit tons of evidence of Palestinian children being killed by the IDF...you know the legitimate armed forces acting on behalf of the elected government of Israel.
History didn't start last Saturday, Zionist have murdered and oppressed the Palestinians for generations.
When do we give Israel agency for creating the conditions the Palestinians are in and making an environment where extremists crop up?
International community is still baffled how Israel missed it, the fuckup is so big that suspicion is that Nethanyahu purposefully ignored it to ignite nationalism, but had no idea how bad it would turn out to be.
There will definitely be a leadership and intelligence reckoning. If this were allowed to happen intentionally, it's hard for me to fathom an appropriate punishment.
Netanyahu is not like Churchill against the nazis, Hammas is like a bunch of Kids with sticks against Israel Army
There still should be a plan and a leader responsible for its implementation. Hamas maybe a bunch of kids with sticks, but Israeli Army is not, and potential for screwup is high.
You maybe right, but I just can't see any big risk for Israel here besides lose their institutions to an autocratic leader.
As I said, potential for screwup is high. But the leader does not has to be Netanyahu.
Is a prime minister the one that comes up with plan like that?
There’s multiple levels so the answer is “sort of.” Very generally, the Minister of Defense (or equivalent) has a national defense council that will have heads of armed forces and maybe a few senior civilian members. The council creates the overall battle plan with specific generals or admirals creating plans for specific battles or campaigns that conform to the overarching goals set by the defense council. The Prime Minister has a cabinet. The cabinet will receive info from the defense council. Intelligence agencies and departments involved with any economic warfare. The PM and cabinet can give direction to individual councils and departments to coordinate the overarching strategy of the entire country. The defense council will then adjust plans based on Cabinet’s directives. The PM is probably given detailed briefings of battlefield progress and aims for the military for the short-, medium-, and long-term for the conflict and can veto specific plans. But the PM won’t help to plan attacks or modify those plans usually. That’s the purview of generals and admirals.
Those are two separate decisions, the latter is a good one and the former terrible.