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Rep. Shri Thanedar (D-Mich.) is revoking his membership in the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) over its promotion of what he said was an antisemitic rally in New York City.

“Today, I am officially renouncing my membership in the Democratic Socialists of America. After the brutal terrorist attacks on Israel, which included the indiscriminate murder, rape, and kidnapping of innocent men, women, and children, I can no longer associate with an organization unwilling to call out terrorism in all its forms,” he wrote in a statement Wednesday.

Thanedar, formerly one of the six members of the DSA in Congress, said that a rally in Times Square on Sunday pushed him to make the decision.

The rally, held just one day after Hamas launched its deadly attack on Israel, was also denounced by other lawmakers and officials.

“Sunday’s hate-filled and antisemitic rally in New York City, promoted by the NYC-DSA, makes it impossible for me to continue my affiliation. I stand with Israel and its right to defend itself. There is no place for moral equivocation in the face of unadulterated evil as we have seen from Hamas,” Thanedar added.

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[–] Ensign_Crab -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let’s not make this a centrist vs left issue.

When centrists stop trying to tar anyone to their left as antisemitic, it'll stop being a centrist versus left issue.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you say centrists, do you mean random commenters like us, or politicians? Can you provide examples?

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Before I proceed, I want it to be known that of fucking course I condemn Hamas.

When I say centrists, I mean centrists. Commenters, pundits and politicians.

Politicians: This guy, for starters. Making a huge show of taking his ball and going home from the DSA, which wasn't involved in the rally in question, but that's not going to stop him. Neither is not being a member if the DSA, which had already kicked him out for supporting India's answer to Trump.

Pundits: There's the "the left is doomed because it REFUSES to condemn MASS MURDER" article that one of this community's centrists posted, there's this article about a grandstanding buffoon, and the article about how the Squad hasn't condemned Hamas loudly enough as examples.

Commenters: This thread. We have one guy starting off with how it's a small fringe of the left that support Hamas, and then goes on to say that this is the natural progression of being to his left because horseshoe theory. There's the guy who had a fucking copypasta of grievances against the left ready to go.

In any event, I find it interesting how no one, centrist or republican, has been expected to denounce Israel's actions at any time over the course of the past few decades, and how unconditional support for Israel's actions is considered a mainstream position.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 1 year ago
  • This guy is a tool, totally agree. Supporting Modi is incompatible with being left wing. I've pretty much written the actual politician off as not serious.

  • Pundits -- oddly enough, I think AOC has made the best statement on this crisis. She did a fantastic job of not making any of the violence sound justified, while condemning all of it.

  • Comments are always hard to judge for if they're really fringe or not. I will say I've seen some leftists carry water for Hamas, but they're the tankie type that doesn't really understand leftism to start with. And I think that's who people are thinking of here when someone says "the left"

You also make an excellent point about how support for Israel never needs to be qualified but for Palestine it does.

Sorry if this comment sounds a bit rushed, I didn't want to leave you hanging, but I've only just heard of Israel telling all of Gaza to evacuate in 24 hours, and I can't get it out of my head. It's utterly chilling. I fear that whatever they're about to do will change the conversation's dynamic entirely.