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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm vegetarian. Western food is so focused on meat that people often have no idea how to make a meal that doesn't contain it. My mother once asked me how to make a vegetarian version of Chicken Parmesan. So keep the tomato sauce, cheese, and spices, but swap out the chicken with pasta. Congrats you've made vegetarian Chicken Parmesan. I like to call it Spaghetti.

[–] candybrie 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd swap the chicken for eggplant personally.

[–] grue 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that speaks to OP's point: instead of thinking in terms of trying to replicate the meat dish without meat, think in terms of making a vegetable dish that satisfies the same mood.

[–] candybrie 3 points 1 year ago

It's just funny that someone was looking for a meatless chicken parm because the original recipe was eggplant parm, just someone thought it would be better with meat.

[–] jarfil 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What was first, the eggplant or the chickenplant?... 😛

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

90% of "vegetarian versions" of dishes are just the dish without meat. 9% of the remainder are the dish with black beans and/or mushrooms

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean personally I'd sub it in for something with some protein, though you definitely don't need nearly the amount you get from a piece of meat.

[–] dojan 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And there’s a lot of alternatives for many different prices. I remember how people used to berate me for being vegetarian while growing up, telling me I’d die and whatnot.

Still here, after nearly thirty years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same for me! I have been a vegetarian since I am a child and vegan on-and-off for two decades. I am healthier than the rest of my family.

The protein-panic is induced by corporations and their influencers that sell protein powder, shakes etc.

Of all the things most people in wealthy countries lack in their average diets, protein is not it....

[–] dojan 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I've never suffered a protein deficiency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] _number8_ 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

and people get so pissy about like 'where is muh serving of protein??' like just because you saw an infograph as a child doesn't mean you have to have a hunk of a living creature every meal

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should still be eating protein...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what has protein? Every whole plant food. You don't need a dedicated part of a meal that is high in protein when the whole meal contains protein.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's delusional.

Different plants have different macros. Ofc there are plants with high protein but don't go around spouting carrots and fruit are a balanced diet. You need beans, legumes, nuts, etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There’s nothing childish about paying attention to macros. If you’ve ever spent time doing any programmed exercising that includes making linear progress, you know the difference protein can make. And it’s hard to achieve even when you’re not extremely limited in ingredients.

I’m not knocking vegan or vegetarian diets. Just saying it’s not at all easy, and that protein matters a lot.

Also most vegetarian Indian food is absolutely loaded with butter/ghee. It’s not “healthy.”

Italy and Japan life expectancy: 84 years.

India: 70 years.

Drastic differences.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I think the poverty and lack of access to healthcare in some areas might be a bigger drag on life expectancy than cooking with butter, especially when a fair number of Italian dishes also include butter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Turkey (lots and lots of meat): 78 years.

Life expectancy is not a good scale.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Can I still have 11 bread?

[–] grue 4 points 1 year ago

like just because you saw an infograph as a child doesn’t mean you have to have a hunk of a living creature every meal

Especially when said infographic was not only wrong, but also propaganda.

[–] Sheeple 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"where's my protein" in the egg. Eat the egg. It will be more than enough for a week.

As a vegetarian, eggs and dairy are a lifesaver.

[–] HerrBeter -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eggs 13% protein idk how I feel about them. Personally I prefer yellow peas, green peas, peanuts. You can downvote me but that doesn't change the fact that you need an absurd amount of eggs