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I dislike both men for the net harm that they've inflicted on humanity.
But if this actually went down, Mark Zuckerberg would beat the brakes off of Elon Musk.
Maybe I'm going crazy but didn't he win some regional ju-jitsu competition recently?
I know that he trains, and saw a clip of one of his matches, and he looked reasonably good for a white or blue belt.
Elon Musk is easily the most feeble of the high profile multi-billionaires. I think that even Branson would have better cardio.
Zuckerberg would close the distance on Musk immediately, take him down, and strangle him with relative ease.
The better match up would be Zuckerberg vs Bezos.
Heh, I wonder if he'll schedule it for like 8 months out and then spend the entire time hiding from public view getting shredded and learning BJJ. It would be super fun to have him show up in the ring and drop his robe to reveal that he's absolutely jacked.
It's a dedication and focus thing, so Elon would not be able to sustain the will to train properly. He'd blow most of his time looking for cheat codes, then try to learn one move, and spam it during the match up.
He'd do well to bow out of any chirping on the subject. If he actually tries to knuckle up, he's going to get embarrassed.
Weirdly, Mark would probably gain some serious street cred for putting Elon to sleep.
Serious question (abd a likely unpopular opinion given the comments here) but do you really think Elon has "inflicted net harn on humanity?" And did you feel that way before he bought Twitter? In my opinion, he's one of the most important persons of this century so far. Getting us to mars & making electric cars commonplace are huge for humanity.
Electric cars aren't significant. It's just a way for people to feel "green" while not changing their habits or adressing the actual issue of climate change. He has harmed society by hoarding money like a dragon just like every other rich fuck.
With respect to cars, we could do so much better just by keeping the ones we have for as long as we can, rather than buying new ones every time the warranty runs out. Buying a new electric vehicle when your car works fine as-is won't help the planet.
We could just keep driving gas guzzlers while strictly regulating those industries which poison our planet, and climate change would be no longer. Passenger vehicles were never the problem, and EVs are just another business.
Electric trains and buses are much more sustainable
Exactly. The cars are nowhere near as bad as all the industries slowly choking the life out of our planet, and the EV industry (ironically enough) is merely contributing to it. The only reason we're forced to bear the climate burden is because inconveniencing the voter is far easier than telling lobbyists to fuck off with their billions.
Serious answer:
With respect to net harm, yes, yes I do mean what I said.
Yes, I did feel that way before he bought Twitter.
One of the most important is not synonymous with one of the most beneficial.
Hyping Mars is cool, but forcibly cutting corners at Space X led to a catastrophic shredding of their launch pad. I would not allow this man near the decision making level at Space X, and I mean that in precisely the same way that I wouldn't want to buy a submarine from that see the Titanic company.
In terms of mitigating the effects of climate change, every little bit counts, but electric cars is probably the least effective application of his wealth.
While his PR image may seem appealing to you, it's like you've got the Oscar Meyer Weiner song in your head; you might even sincerely enjoy the product. But that also strongly suggests that you haven't walked around on the production floor to see how it's made.
With respect to the net harm to humanity claim, the aiding and abetting of intolerance and fascism has a direct cost in human lives.
And to be clear, no matter how loyal you are to him, and no matter how much you choose to ignore in order to sustain it, you're less than an NPC to him.
I've argued musk is one of the best PR workers in the billionaire class since early days of space x.
Mars is what he tells people yet he makes the majority of his money sending spy satellites into space. Look at what he has actually accomplished. One nothing, it's all the actual engineers who work for him. Two a lot of DoD contracts and nothing on Mars, not even a satellite in orbit around Mars.
Just look deeper into his history and you will find a spoiled child who often takes over already successful companies then they do well often in spite of him. Paypal he fought against,and it became the main product of the company that is now named Paypal.
Tesla already had an working electric vehicle when he took over. Once they made there production ready car Musk fired the actual engineers who made it. Now Mercedes has the first certified level 3 self driving car and every other auto manufacturer has caught up in terms of electrification. They have little in terms of competitiveness in the short to medium term future.
He's just a good bullshitter and he didn't do so good at bullshitting the Twitter takeover. Most people still don't realize how big of a loser this son of an emerald mining company owner is.
Zuck is also a psychopath don't get me wrong but you only asked about Musk so I'll spare you.