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[–] Agent641 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

When the gay marriage vote came to Australia, my household got very political. I voted yes, but both of my dads voted no.

[–] Lemminary 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never understood the gays who voted no on a referendum back in the 2000s and justified it with some religious and heteronormative bs like "marriage is from religion by religion" and "we're the outliers, so we shouldn't make people conform to us". Like, how self-hating and backstabbing can you be. If you don't want it, you don't have to have it but let others realize their dreams at nobody's expense.

[–] electrogamerman 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I do agree that marriage is a religious thing and I wouldn't care at all, but getting married brings a lot of benefits.

So its not like gay people want to "realize their dreams" but we want the same benefits that straight people have.

If religious people dont want to accept gay people, then benefits shouldn't be given based on religious acts like marriage.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Marriage is not religious. Getting married in a church, with a priest and before God is the religious part.

In a lot of countries you can get married without any religion being involved. Some government officials will then officiate the wedding.

[–] FlyingSquid 13 points 1 year ago

Even true in the religious U.S., even in ultra-religious Indiana. My wife and I got married by a lawyer (a very old family friend) in a ballroom. We said we didn't want any mention of god or religion and he complied. This was 23 years ago, but it hasn't changed.

[–] electrogamerman 5 points 1 year ago

Wait, its true. I fucking forgot one can get married and not do the whole church thing.

[–] Lemminary 2 points 1 year ago

I only meant "realize their dreams" in the sense that some people want it as part of their life goals. I personally don't want it and couldn't care less but I still want that possibility for others.