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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why must every faction of Progressives attack each other. Bernie Sanders is the most solid progressive I know of, but Code Pink wants to attack him because his Ukraine support isn't anti-war? I'm anti war. In particular I'm anti the war that Russia started by invading Ukraine. Anti war doesn't mean just letting the bad guy do whatever they want. If so, then anti-war is pro tyranny, because they always let the aggressor invade.

[–] WaltJRimmer 71 points 1 year ago

One of the things that made me really like Sanders when he was first campaigning for president was when I looked up his record on American war and he had a voting record that tended to follow a quote from him that amounted to something like (paraphrasing), "War should be the last resort, but if a war is started, we need to see it fully see it through."

It's not like siding with Ukraine and getting into that conflict is supporting warfare. It's seeking to prevent warmongers from profiting off a senseless war. The idea that abandoning Ukraine to just be invaded and allowing Russia to get whatever they want by force is an, "Anti-war," stance is fucking absurd.

[–] flossdaily 13 points 1 year ago

The left has always had its share of morons.

Well-meaning morons, but morons nonetheless.

The issue is that the centrist and right wing media latch on to the narrative of these fringe weirdos and pretend that they represent the entirety of the left wing, even though there are WAY MORE lefties who find them disdainful.

[–] negativeyoda 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The left loves nothing more than to bicker over ideological purity.

The right falls in line

[–] flossdaily 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

False narrative.

We have less than a dozen morons here. They don't represent anyone but themselves.

Meanwhile we have entire factions of the Republican party at war with themselves from the Lincoln Project to the infighting in the House just this week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All of them intend to vote for Trump in November, regardless of legal court findings, if they have any chance to vote form him, through legal means or otherwise they will all do it.