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Plant Milk Is Better For Us and the Climate. So Why Do We Subsidize Dairy?
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this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2023
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I'm curious what makes milk bad for you. Could someone explain this? I understand why it is bad for the climate, but not why it's bad for human health provided you can digest lactose properly.
It's a similar issue to why gluten became a fad diet, once the public zeitgeist got the idea that some people can't digest gluten properly people started thinking that maybe no one should eat gluten and the hucksters followed suit.
Do not believe any scammer who tries to tell you that milk is somehow not healthy or that the dairy industry is some kind of scam trying to poison America.
Why would the people pointing out how unhealthy milk is be the ones that are the scammers? What would they have to gain from it? Why is milk promoted so very hard as a "health" drink? Not enough people seem to ask themselves this.
The same reason why people try to tell you that vaccines are bullshit but if you buy their essential oils you'll live forever. People try to discredit the mainstream and proven treatment in favor of quackery that they happen to sell at an inflated price.
Milk is "vaccines" in this situation. People are telling us milk is bullshit, but if we buy into veganism, we'll live forever. While the Mayo Clinic reminds people that plant based milks are just generally not as healthy as dairy milk. Soymilk comes close if it is both fortified and unsweetened, but it's still second-best. Good enough for someone who is already a vegan, but definitely not good enough for someone to stop drinking milk if they already do.
Yeah, but what are they going to sell? Also, I don't think milk as a health drink is really all that mainstream any more, or becoming increasingly less so over time. I think people are still sputtering along on what they might have been told ages ago, or what they were told by the dairy council.
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Militant Veganism involves the desire to convince people to stop eating animal products at all costs. Just look at nutritionstudies.org. When you have a bunch "plant-based nutrition" sites that disagree with the Mayo Clinic and various cancer research organizations, it definitely gets problematic.
Per the Mayo Clinic: "it’s tough to beat dairy milk for balanced nutrition". That's why. With a few caveats (which I cover below), it is one of the most perfectly balanced foods a human can consume.
Here's a question I don't think enough people seem to ask. When cancer patients are encouraged to drink milk, and study after study fails to find a strong correlative or causal link between milk and cancer, why are so many vegan sites claiming it causes or worsens cancer. If I were a cancer patient, should I be trusting nutritionstudies.org and some vegan redditors/lemmings more than, say, Cancer Research UK? Or the Australia Cancer Council?
The problem is that "why does EVERYONE say this is so healthy?!?" is similar to "there's no evidence of this person committing a crime, so it must be a massive cover-up"... Or maybe EVERYONE says it is so healthy because it is so healthy.
Not saying it's a magical wonderdrink. Drinking calories is still an obesity risk. And people with lactose intolerance need to be careful or have a lactase enzyme with their milk. Of course the dairy industry wants you to drink 5000 glasses of milk per day. So don't listen to them, and equally don't listen to the militant vegans. Listen to medical and nutrition experts who don't have some sort of agenda.
It isn't healthy in the same way candy bars with added vitamins aren't healthy: it's a bunch of sugar and fat you don't need with some protein and calcium somewhere in there.
But maybe you want it anyways, because it's yummy.
It's not bad for human health at all. Bullshit myths pushed on social media.
Well it is high in fat and calories, it's totally fine in moderation.
There's a lot of cholesterol in cows milk for a start.
Dietary cholesterol isn't unhealthy
That's what big dairy wants you to think
Dietary cholesterol is bad.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/dietary-guidelines-eat-as-little-dietary-cholesterol-as-possible/
In moderation
If you eat 20 eggs for lunch every day, you might have an issue.
There's a lot that makes milk bad.
https://nutritionstudies.org/dairy-consumption-weight-loss-claims/
https://nutritionstudies.org/no-body-needs-milk/
Saturated fats, hormones, antibiotics, bacteria (only if consumed raw)
Consuming over 1.25 liters of milk a day increases the risk of prostate cancer (however also decreases risk of colon cancer)
It's also not only bad for the climate but also for the cows who have to be impregnated and giving birth before there is any milk
It's not. The Mayo Clinic clearly states that milk is healthier than plant milks. Fortified soymilk is their second-best.
While there are saturated fats in cow milk, it's a low enough percent of calories that you can drink any amount of milk and still never cross the "healthy to unhealthy" line.
Also, be wary of people quoting nutritionstudies.org as it's a vegan propaganda mill with a founder that likes to make claims that are either unsubstantiated or rejected by medical experts and nutritionists in general. Using one of the cited references from that site "nobody needs to drink milk", he claims that casein causes tumor growth. There is a weak correlation between casein intake and tumor growth that puts it in the same category of "may possibly cause cancer" as hundreds of things you do every day (to add, there's similar evidence that dairy "may possibly" prevent some forms of cancer). Milk is not known to cause or worsen cancer, nor even **likely to ** cause/worsen cancer, from a scientific point of view. More frustrating, milk's nutritional balance and high protein makes it something doctors generally encourage cancer patients to drink.