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House Democrats on Tuesday said they do not plan to save Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) when a vote on ousting him from the top spot hits the floor later in the day.

Emerging from a more than two-hour meeting in the Capitol, House Democrats said they will vote to oust McCarthy from the Speakership.

“We are following our leader and we are not saving Kevin McCarthy,” Rep. Pramila Jayapal, chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told reporters.

Asked if a decision was made as a caucus not to support McCarthy, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) responded, “yes.”


This news follows McCarthy's statement that he won't give Dems anything to save his Speakership.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4235572-mccarthy-says-he-wont-give-democrats-anything-in-exchange-for-support-as-speaker/

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[–] billiam0202 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This right here is the most pertinent point I think:

"This is someone who reneged on the budget deal with the President..." [Schiff] added.

It doesn't matter if McCarthy promised the world to the Dems or not- the fact that he ignored the deal he agreed to with President Biden during the debt ceiling (hostage) negotiations means they have no reason to help him. Guess bipartisanship being anathema to Republicans is gonna bite Kevin now. Hope you all have enough popcorn.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who knew politicians were so bad at politics? Every Civilization player knows you need to offer things and honor your agreements to get cooperation. Maybe I should send Kevin a copy.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless the other party is Gandhi in Civ VI... Gandhi will form a coalition of nations just to fuck you up for even glancing his direction, ironically.

[–] billiam0202 10 points 1 year ago

Nonexistence is the ultimate expression of nonviolence!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He didn't ignore it, he couldn't get the FreeDumb Caucus to vote for it even though they should have. NO ONE can control those idiots, they need to be removed from office.

[–] nelly_man 2 points 1 year ago

He didn't need them to vote for it. If he was willing to pass a bill that would be supported by the other Republicans and some Democrats, he could have kept his promise. He just didn't want to upset the FreeDumb Caucus and risk losing his position as Speaker. Ultimately, he acquiesced and brought the promises bill to a vote at the final hour, but it was too late. All he managed to do was enrage the extremists in his party enough for them to bring a vote to oust him, while also showing the Democrats that his promises are worthless. If he brought the good bill up earlier, the Democrats might have voted to keep him as Speaker, but his actions killed the only shred of a hope for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And we don’t negotiate with terrorists.