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[–] jeffw 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

TIL industries create the demand for these products, not consumers

[–] Mandarbmax 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know you are joking but with how dairy lobbies get subsidies from the gov they kind of are making their own demand.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 5 points 1 year ago

Unlike plant milk made from say soy or almonds. Those get no subsidies at all. Nope.

[–] dragonflyteaparty 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The propaganda for milk (that's still going) certainly had a big role to play.

[–] CharlesDarwin 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I cannot help but be reminded of the games that Big Tobacco (and Big Fossil) played pre-90s, all through the 90s, most mostly lost. It used to be "what are you non-smokers complaining about? It's not that bad, etc..." pre-90s. Then, finally most indoor smoking got banned, even in bars. Then the fight moved to "but second hand smoke is not that bad, etc..."

Used to be there were tons of smokers in the United States. Now there are far less. I imagine dairy will go through a similar cycle...with the same efforts to distract and distort - even with a crisis of many related chronic diseases - see the "but almonds use so much water!" nonsense that is almost surely an industry placement.

For another comparison to tobacco, I had many, many family members that worked in health care. Most places in health care allowed smoking, nearly everywhere, at one point. If you see what constitutes "food" and "nutrition" in hospitals, it is easy to draw comparisons. It is almost like they could not care less if you get sick and stay sick, since there is no money in prevention.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

People hawk on manufactured consent until it's inconvenient to the point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's true! did you just discover bernays?