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Ten or so years ago I liked the guy. He did great things with tesla and spacex. Now every bit of information I get about him deminish my respect more than the previous. It seems like tesla and spacex has done great in spite of him, not because of him.
His employees did, I doubt he knows jack shit about designing cars or rockets. He stole the credit to create this image that he's like a real life Ironman.
Twitter is the perfect example of that, what happened to it is the demonstration of what happens when there's no one to babysit him out of not taking stupid decisions.
reading the whole comment is usually useful.
The only way to win is not to play.
That was what I was trying to say.
reading is hard these days
In the 2010s, friends and family always rolled their eyes when I told them he didn't found Tesla, wasn't a rocket engineer and got kicked out of Paypal. I was always just a Debby Downer who just didn't want it to work or something. Now after Hyperloop Vaporware, dead monkeys from brain transplants, shut down Starlink for Ukraine and the Twitter aquisition, they finally joined my choir. I will admit it's quite gratifying to hear some of them say "you were right all along" after years of being dismissed.
Of course nobody on the internet will admit they were wrong, though. They'll either stick to him, claim they always doubted him or say he just changed. Whatever, it is what it is.
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*he bought companies that did great things, I dont get how that wasn't obvious all along
I honestly thought he founded both companies back then. I don't know if that he just bought them was obvious/something everyone should know or if I was clueless. I guess maybe it is a mix of both.
He had remarkably good PR back then
See it this way: it was so good he started to believe his own PR, after which he fired them. I wonder if he will ever deal with reality
He did found SpaceX
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX
He didn't found Tesla but it had 7 employees and was about to go bust when he bought in (2014) 8 months after it was founded
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla,_Inc.
Oh, thanks for the history lesson! :)
He did call himself a βfounderβ of both
He founded SpaceX not bought it. He bought Tesla when it was a failing startup with an unsellable prototype.
It probably was the smart people he hired that made them successful but he very definitely didnt just buy thriving businesses and claim their existing success as his.
The guy is an ass and a terrible person, but he very definitely was instrumental in building those companies
He was okay before he started engaging politics. Although his treatment of workers and women always had me concerned
The treatment of his workers and women is politics. Probably just not the kind of politics that personally negatively affects you.
Musk was never okay.