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Help-wanted advertisements in New York will have to disclose proposed pay rates after a statewide salary transparency law goes into effect on Sunday, part of growing state and city efforts to give women and people of color a tool to advocate for equal pay for equal work.

Employers with at least four workers will be required to disclose salary ranges for any job advertised externally to the public or internally to workers interested in a promotion or transfer.

Pay transparency, supporters say, will prevent employers from offering some job candidates less or more money based on age, gender, race or other factors not related to their skills.

Advocates believe the change also could help underpaid workers realize they make less than people doing the same job.

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[–] scottywh 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those "headhunters" in India are nearly entirely useless anyway so I don't even bother responding to them anymore... Especially if they aren't going to include salary ranges.

Recruiting in general needs a fundamental overhaul. People should not be recruiting at all for positions that they themselves have zero experience in. If IT recruiters, for example, were all former IT staff then we'd have a much higher quality pool of applicants since the recruiters would actually know what to look for and what questions to ask for a change.

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to say it's been bad for a verrrrry long time. I'm actually surprised people try to offshore this; my experience was bad enough with local headhunters; cannot imagine how much worse it would be to have them offshored...this kind of thing should be about building human, ideally local, relationships so placements are better matches. I've seen very, very good headhunters in action, and all of them were local and if not working the area for a decade+ already, they were doing everything possible to build a real, human network. But the good ones are like 5% of the field, I'd say.

[–] scottywh 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

5% at best but I definitely agree... It's possible for recruiters to be good and step one is being local as well as being experienced and familiar with the local companies and job market.

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 1 year ago

I've always compared the worst ones to having the ethics of the worst caricature of people in used car sales - a typical pattern was putting the youngest (and often quite attractive) women they could find as their front-facing people to talk to the talent, with the older men there to close the deal/maintain the relationships/do the very hard sell to the talent, etc...neither the backroom managers nor the front-facing people seemed to know or care all that much about the actual work or about your situation, etc...it was about getting to a close.

The very best operated quite differently from this. When I run across people doing it right, I am sure to take down their information and be sure I kept it somewhere for a rainy day. As for the others, they tend to come and go, I've noticed (sometimes just a rename/acquisition, though) but I also take down their information, but more as a blacklist/contact only if absolutely needed type of situation...

I cannot imagine trying to take an offshore group even the least bit seriously, unless my situation was very dire indeed.