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[–] echoplex21 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What in the fuck, I would have never guessed Mitt was 76 years old. He looks a generation younger than Trump/Biden/McConnell, not their peer.

Overall I disagreed with Mitt a ton but he was someone with a bit of backbone compared to other Republicans.

[–] _cerpin_taxt_ 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, yeah he looks 60 at most. I guess magical underpants or whatever will do that for you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And hot dogs… apparently.

[–] PetDinosaurs 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, except for the grey hair, Romney looks similar enough to Biden. I don't know if Mormons forbid hair dye in the same way they forbid hot drinks, but the hair color is the only difference I see.

In any case, I'm not yet 40 and my cohort are dealing with grey hair. Romney's would be unusual but not impossible. I also have very few greys, but it gets comments since I'm not the type of person who would dye his hair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lol, Mormons forbid caffeine not hot drinks.

They're still allowed hot cocoa.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People have no idea what Mormons believe, the other day I saw someone saying they couldn't eat chocolate and the comment had hundreds of upvotes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Chocolate is actually a topic of debate, because of the caffeine.

That itself is fun, because the book that talks about keeping your body pure, "the pearls of wisdom," doesn't actually say you can't have caffeine, but that's how it's taught and interpreted. It actually talks about "hot drinks," which at the time would have been tea and coffee, but it doesnt out right say either.

So the chocolate thing is real-ish, but its issue is based on something that isn't real but is considered real.

Neat, huh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think by pearls of wisdom you mean the Pearl of Great Price, but that was really just a supplement to the Old Testament, expounding on Moses and their belief of the creation.

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ were commanded not to drink hot drinks, interpreted by prophets as coffee and tea. Members recently have, when asked why, claimed their teachings were that they were to abstain from caffeine because the caffeine is addictive and that's why Coffee was bad. However, this was and has never been the doctrine. The doctrine was purely to abstain from coffee and certain types of tea, as the "hot drinks" in the book of the Doctrine and Covenants that has been interrpreted by modern-day prophets. Never has a prophet established that caffeine is the culprit for the reason for abstaining, infact, the same book also establishes that God has only given commandments for the purposes of spirituality, rather than mortality. But because of the member-spread tradition, many members have believed--falsly--that they had been taught to abstain from caffeine and therefore also abstain from chocolate. This has never been the case, but has merely been member tradition and has unfortunately spread as what their church teaches. The doctrine of the church is relatively simple, but you have to sift member traditions (such as being republican, or not drinking caffeine, or not letting their children play with non members, or not being able to gamble, or not being able to consume caffeine, or being homophobic) from the teachings of the Church, which is to have Faith in Jesus Christ, repent, be baptized, receive the Holy Ghost, and Endure to the end.

[–] _cerpin_taxt_ 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They actually just aren't allowed caffeine. It's a "mind-altering" substance according to them. So they can drink hot cocoa, but only if the chocolate has been de-caffeinated.

Source: my old roommate was a "Jack" Mormon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This is incorrect. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do not drink alcohol, coffee, or tea, and do not use illegal or dangerous substances (exceptions made when the substance is used legally and with a doctor's prescription). We do not have any prohibition on caffeine.

Source: Currently practicing Latter-day Saint