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[–] anewbeginning 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As global demographics begin their decline the value of labour can only come up. Plus the more specialised the workers the more power they possess. This guy is a delusional moron who’s fighting inevitable changes. In order to get 40% unemployment they have to assume massive losses, and we know they do anything to prevent small losses, so threat is more empty than his brain.

[–] Rooty 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just read the article, and holy shit is this guy delusional. 50 percent unemployment would cause massive unrest, if not total collapse of many branches of the economy. The fact he wasn't laughed out of the room speaks volumes about these billionare circlejerk events.

[–] Mog_fanatic 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not to mention he seems to be confused as to why business owners don't already just layoff a ton of people to send some sort of message and put them in their place.

Hmmm... I wonder why that hasn't happened... its almost as if there was some reason business owners would actually need good workers... That can't be tho, must be something else... 🤔

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Businesses don't need the working class silly, they take on the burden of employing them out of the goodness of their hearts.

😂

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago

It was like someone here on Lemmy who was talking about how it was the taxpayers who made 'meaningful contributions' to society. I was like, "what about the people who make your food and clean your hotel room when you go on that luxury vacation?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's this weird balance with businesses. While narcissists and sociopaths make the wealthiest business owners, many successful business owners are merely "unpleasant".

Look at Musk. If he were competent (and the Twitter thing wasn't originally just an attempt to manipulate stock prices), the whole "buy and gut" attitude can be quite effective at making money. Dump compliance folks. Dump critical personnel and let them "figure it the fuck out", etc. I've seen businesses run by sociopaths do things like that all the time.

And hell, let's look at Musk a bit more. Everyone talks about how much money Twitter is losing. Nobody is talking about how much money Musk is losing (or not losing). First, a full 1/3 of the purchase price are loans in Twitter's name (!!!). That puts Musk on the hook for only $30B directly... which he paid in equity of other companies (making the purchase tax-sheltered).

Burned utterly to the ground (the product and the staff), 2023 might be their first profitable year since 2019 (albeit as a MUCH smaller company), and I'm guessing Musk is collecting a fair chunk of change in salary and bonuses. Ironically, I'm guessing he's still going to amortize the "losses" as he builds his own ROI.

Yes, a better leader would have created a successful Twitter. And YES, Musk never really wanted to spend that much on it. But I firmly believe he's taking it to the bank anyway.

And as horrific as most CEO's are, a lot of them don't have this type of behavior in them. Which is the other side of the "reason business owners need good workers". Not every CEO is willing to embrace "profit-focused mass-layoffs"

[–] Nurgle 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in disbelief when I read that too, but on second pass the quote was the rate should increase by 40-50%. So to 6% from 4% or whatever the current rate is in Australia.

[–] Rooty 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still, wishing to fucking double the unemployment because the proles have the audacity to want to be treated as human beings is fucking disgusting.

According to this ambulatory pile of turds the workers should approach their employers like Oliver Twist wanting a second helping of gruel - "May I have my wages, sir, please?" The owner class has gotten way too comfortable saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] Nurgle 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh I’m not arguing how insane it is. These people are literally delusional, and the fact they’re constructing these fictions means they’re beyond reach. Hes talking about 250,00 people losing they’re jobs.

(Also double is 100% increase)

[–] Rooty 7 points 1 year ago

Also double is 100% increase

Man, I really cannot math today

[–] feedum_sneedson 5 points 1 year ago

It would cause a literal revolution.

[–] TheWoozy 0 points 1 year ago

If you read the article, he says a 40% increase in unemployment. That would like (for simple math) increasing the rate from 5% to 7%.

The current unemployment rate in the US is 3.8% and Aus it's 3.5%. So he wants them at 5.3% and 4.9%, respectively.