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The crazy thing is that the Air Force, Army, and just about every other branch of the military has contracted or is looking to contract with Space X to get Starlink. He doesn't have a problem with providing the US with that capability because we're not in direct conflict, but will deny it to ukraine when it's in Russia's favor.
After this I, I would totally re-look those agreements.
Government contracts for Starlink services
If he tried cutting off the US military during an active operation, his life could be made very bad very quickly.
That would be literal treason.
It's already treason since he has provided aid and comfort to a hostile foreign government.
Russia isn't an "enemy" legally, and halting a service to a third government to prevent an attack on Russia isn't the same as hindering the US military.
It's horrible, but it isn't treason
He has not. Get over yourself. Could you live with yourself knowing your technology would be used to kill people? I certainly could not. It's not like he sabotaged an operation, he simply refused to get blood on his hands. Which should be admirable, right? It's not his fault a country full of no-brain socialists is doing all it can to troll the free world. He is not part of the war yet people seem to want him to be... Somehow. Very very strange. It's easy to point the finger at someone whose richness you envy, but put yourself in their place. Now would you comply with a request to enable your service simply so it could be used to kill actual people? Don't get me wrong, I fucking despise Russia and socialism and totalitarianism, but it doesn't mean I am willing to partake in murdering those who don't.
Musks actions enabled those russian warships to launch missiles into ukranian cities with no regard to civilian casualties. So instead of the russian aggressors being sunk and killed in port, it's innocent civilians that die. What a great trade off.
Also, look at grandparent's comment that started this thread you're commenting in. Space-X now has a DoD contract to provide Ukraine access to starlink. Then go lookup starshield, the planned military focused offshoot of starlink. The point is Musk has no issue selling shit to the US gov to help participation/perpetuation of war.
So don't give us that russian talking point that musk's actions were to avoid blood on his hands. That weak argument was so easy to poke holes in, and it's insulting you'd think anyone would fall for.
Yes I could knowing it would kill invaders and what's most important russians. Polander here so might be biased against those mongrels more than you but I would love to provide more tools to get rid of them from Ukrainian territory.
You're an absolute dry dog turd. He signed up for exactly that back when everyone joined the Ukraine bandwagon. He did it for internet points then, and afterwards pussed out or was paid out. He contracted this exact blood on his hands.
shades of howard hughs level wacky, but no one ever thought he'd work with the russians.
And space-x represent a host of capabilities that certainly fall in the country's direct security interest. nationalize spacex?
it would never ever be considered but musk is that fucking stupid.
also, he's lost tens of billions via twitter, so he's ripe for compromise.
tsk...
Correction. He doesn't have a problem providing the US with service because the government pays a SHITLOAD for guaranteed access to that. Ukraine cannot afford such expenditures.
I think space X shouldn't be involved with the war. It is not a military company. I don't know, just my opinion.