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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Good. Let’s see what his daddy Trump gets. And good luck trying to get a pardon lol

[–] Son_of_dad 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm of the belief that it's never going to happen. He's an ex president, white, rich. The system was designed for him to get away with it. And even if he's find guilty, it'll be years of appeals, and he'll die of old age or a big Mac before he ever has to report to jail. Or he'll be pardoned by the next Republican president before he ever sets foot in jail.

I also believe the u.s government would never allow an ex president to end up in an orange jumpsuit. No matter who is president.

[–] sturmblast 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't agree at all frankly. I think for us to heal as a nation, he MUST be punished. This-could possibly be, quite literally, the biggest (series of?) crime(s) in American history. It cannot stand. And he cannot be pardoned in state charges. He also, technically, cannot hold office again due to the 14th amendment. It also sounds like there is still more charges to come and he's already looking at 91 felony charges.. people don't just get to walk away from this level of shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

he’s already looking at 91 felony charges… people don’t just get to walk away from this level of shit.

You just watch. It has been more than obvious for decades for just about anyone abroad that the US have a 2-tiered justice system. You think that's just gonna change just because more Americans are aware of it now?! I wish for a conviction just like most decent human beings but I really dont believe it will happen.

[–] CharlesDarwin 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but I thought the same of Nixon and Ronnie Raygun, and nothing happened to them. Same for Bush/ Cheney.

So I guess we'll see.

[–] sturmblast 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

those aren't even comparable situations at all

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 10 months ago

Well, I sure hope an exception is made for donnie, but it does seem like it is comparable - right wing POTUSes getting away with egregious crimes. It seems like the right keep amping up their crimes over the years - "Watergate" is shorthand for something truly scandalous, but the fact of the matter is that Iran/Contra was even worse than that, lying us into Iraq and then committing war crimes and spying on Americans is arguably worse than Iran/Contra and plotting a coup and throwing an insurrection is definitely even worse.

The pattern I see is Republican Presidents getting away with more and more crimes with zero consequences, at least for themselves.

I would love to see donnie Bin Laden imprisoned and break that pattern.

[–] Son_of_dad 3 points 10 months ago

The problem is that the people in charge don't care about people healing

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate 5 points 10 months ago

I, like you, am a cynic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago