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[–] baronvonj 134 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So .. if he could receive a call ... couldn't he make a call to someone he knows?

[–] [email protected] 202 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember reading about this. He was actually lost, in that he strayed from his trail and didn't immediately know how to return.

Rescuers were alerted because a family member had reported him missing after he didn't arrive home on time.

As the story goes, to the best of my recollection, the "lost" individual went for a hike and said they would be back before sundown. When they got lost, they obviously missed that deadline. They were biding their time in the forest until daybreak to try to find the trail to get back because it was too dark to look for it. So while he was "lost" it was mainly because the sun had gone down. He didn't feel like he was in any danger, and wasn't at any risk of immediately being harmed or killed; AFAIK they were reasonably familiar with that forest and they were more than capable of surviving in those conditions; so he had no motivation to seek help.

TL;DR: guy didn't feel like he needed help.

[–] _CottonCandyUnicorn_ 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get that he didn't feel like he needed help. But he told his family he'd be back before sundown so wouldn't the thought to call or even text your family to let them know you're ok cross your mind? That's the part that seems strange to me.

[–] cactusupyourbutt 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

whats strange to me is that the family didnt try to reach him first

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Or why didn’t the rescuers text or leave a message?

Sounds like everyone has trouble communicating properly here. It’s like how to write a sitcom plot 101.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they forgot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been there for sure

Just forgetting to tell family I was going to be later than I expected

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Happens on a weekly basis for me

[–] idunnololz 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah that part is a bit inconsiderate.

[–] Rehwyn 4 points 1 year ago

Article about it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hiker-lost-24-hours-ignored-rescuers-calls-because-they-didn-n1282381

What's more likely is that in his panic he wasn't thinking quite straight. It's very common for people to make decisions that seem silly in retrospect in situations like this.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He was probably afraid to call for help due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge. Might have wanted to wait another day or two to be sure he was really lost before calling for help.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge

Is this a joke or is this actually a thing in the US?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Hahahaha no really the US is just a nightmare in ways you havent even thought of, yet.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a U.S. thing! Yay! You can buy insurance for it if you do a lot of backpacking but that’s rare. I believe it’s in the five figures for a rescue. But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

MIB?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately they only come if you need to be rescued from aliens.

[–] punkwalrus 5 points 1 year ago

A childhood friend of mine had to sign a waiver in New Zealand because her and her team were climbing down some canyon notoriously hard to get to except by rescue helicopter. She got stuck, and the rest of the team went to go get help. She paid $58,000 in 1990s money for the rescue. So it's not just the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It depends on the state and payment is more likely required if local officials deem you negligent or if youʼre a part of a common pattern in that location (e.g. Floridians visiting southern Utah every winter and getting themselves stuck in cliffs).

States with laws allowing search and rescuers to charge for rescuing them, according to this 2021-10-06 New York Times article titled “You Got Lost and Had to Be Rescued. Should You Pay?”:

  • Hawaii
  • Idaho
  • Maine
  • New Hampshire
  • Oregon
  • South Dakota
  • Vermont

God help you if your rescuers call you an air ambulance, though.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USA: die or get crippled by debt for getting saved

[–] books 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In all fairness. The USA has some fucking gnarly terrain and is sparsely populated.

Sending out a chopper team to get you off a cliff face isn't cheap and is completely self inflicted, so I kinda get why they charge you for that.

Getting cancer on the other hand, shouldn't bankrupt you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still not going to cost you in Australia, one of most sparsely populated countries on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If it's an ambulance chopper, it will. Police and fire are socialised