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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Does the person posting this think that people that support gay marriage don’t also support trans, sex worker, and abortion rights?

It’s not a very good told-you-so when the people you’re told-you-so-ing agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more common than you'd think. There's a disappointingly high number of transphobic gays and lesbians, and there are definitely people who are pro-gay marriage who are anti-sex worker. I definitely think it's rarer for people to support gay rights and not support abortion rights though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Huh. Then I guess their audience sucks.

[–] Drivebyhaiku 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I routinely see in and amongst the right wing protesters where I see gay men holding up signs that throw trans people under the bus. A lot of the attitudes in gay bars can be hostile and misogynistic towards trans men too.

They get to feel respectable so long as they are the ones participating in the oppression and the bigots get to use these people as shields - "look how reasonable we are, we have gay people who support us SEE ?!" but it's all disposable. Once they've successfully oppressed the people on the outside the Conservatives turn to the next layer of the circle in reverse order of acceptance. Suddenly the bigotry is at the door for the idiots who supported them and their friends who were using them as shields don't need them anymore.

The Nazis did this too. Gay men joined up with the brownshirts hoping to find safety and acceptance in the ranks. They participated in the dismantling of their own communities and then the minute they were judged to be no longer useful they were purged and executed in the Night of Long Knives.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[–] GabrielBell12fi 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look up the LGB Alliance. They are not nice people.

[–] Ultraviolet 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're also extremely biphobic, so I guess the B in the name is just there to prevent an electronics company from suing them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe the B stands for "But nobody else"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am also confused by this. I'm sure there are a fair share of gay people voting Republican - there were Jewish people in the nazi party as well - but implying the Republicans got to power on a wave of gay votes is just beyond absurd.

[–] vind 4 points 1 year ago

It's not implying that republicans got to power because of gay votes, but rather that organisations such as the LGB Alliance and the multitude of TERFS that have helped this happen through advocating against Trans folk. They're not the sole reason, but they're still a big part especially when they've attempted to fracture progressive movements.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, who told whom what exactly? Seems to be implying that LG don't care about BTQ+, but this move is entirely consistent with Republican / right ideology, which LG hasn't never been a big part of.

It's never been a secret either. It has been an explicit and public position of Republicans (and part of SCOTUS) since forever.

Same sex marriage has only been legal in all 50 states since 2015. Does anyone really believe that Republican leaders and the new right-wing SCOTUS miraculously changed their minds after Obergefell v Hodges?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The people being admonished for inaction aren’t bigots, they’re average folks who simply didn’t believe that society would slide into the 1940s again. A fair proportion of voters saw undoing roe v wade as the final piece to the republican master plan, and an existential threat to all Americans used only to spur voters on both sides to vote. It’s chiding naivety.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Lots of TERFS are lesbians who hate trans people, trans women in particular, and want to make sex work illegal.