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Can we please unpin the proprietary off-site/off-network promotion of discord (self.support)

submitted 1 year ago by j4k3 to c/support

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This is completely counter productive to growing Lemmy. I absolutely despise discord. Look at the network traffic it generates and tell me wtf they are doing. They won't tell you. Their business model will leave you completely dumbfounded as to how they exist. Everything shared on the platform is lost in a black hole unavailable to the outside world and everything shared is a privacy nightmare. Posting this, pinning it here, and locking it is one of the biggest trolls possible. It pisses me off every time I log in. "Everyone else does it" is the excuse of idiots. Discord makes absolutely no sense to anyone that actually cares to look into it, read the user agreement, and ask sane questions about what they are doing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everyone wants your phone number now because it's a decent approach to combating spammers. Note that I said decent, not perfect. It's relatively easy for a company to determine if a phone number is owned by a specific person vs. a voip company that enables spammers to use hundreds of new numbers, so now we're asking everyone for theirs. SMS is also used for the lowest form of multi factor authentication, so they get to claim that it's a security decision, not one for marketing, etc and because of network effects, we all have to choose to either go along or miss out.

Agree that it's super annoying and certainly not privacy-centric, but Discord is owned by Microsoft, what can we expect? Innovation?

[–] kaito 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Discord being owned by Microsoft, now that's news to me. I don't think that's a thing, at least not yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For some reason I was convinced they had sold out, but it looks like you're right, they're still independent for the time being. Thanks for the note!

[–] shertson 4 points 1 year ago

I understand the ease for choosing phone numbers. I would love it if they gave me another option to validate.

For a community like Lemmy, I would prefer that they choose a different chat system, one that doesn't require me to validate with a phone number. Matrix is an option and doesn't require phone numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It also doesn't work. I can't use telegram because I have a number that I originally got from project fi, back when it was project fi. Eventually I moved cell providers and I migrated the phone number that I got with Project Fi. As such, a real number that I've had for over a decade looks like a voip range number, even though it isn't anymore and hasn't been for a long time.