You should also be able to disable the repo from within the Software store app
If you have another USB drive, I think you should be able to load the wifi drivers from that when using the netinstall. I am pretty sure I remember doing that 15 years ago.
Gnome because it is the default in my district, works right out of the box and I'm too old to fart around with customizing things anymore.
I just want to get to work.
If I remember correctly, in a previous blog pretty, they started that k-9 would continue to be updated with the same functionality. There was something else other than branding that was going to be different but it wasn't consequential (at least not enough for me to remember).
I really should do another review. I've had my Framework for about the same time. Most of the time it is hooked up to my dock and a 4 port KVM. My biggest annoyance is that switching back to my Framework on the KVM it often doesn't wake up or properly display. My work computers running Windows rarely have that issue and my Linux desktop never does. (I run Linux on the Framework.) I suspect that there is a setting I need to adjust for diving to keep it from going into hibernation, but I haven't put that much effort into it yet.
When not docked, my biggest issue is the touchpad. I think some form of dirt got into it and the clicking doesn't always register. But I'm too lazy to fix.
And if I watch videos it gets pretty hot. Again, there are probably things I could do to fix that.
So, really the laptop is great, I'm just a shitty owner/user.
My hinges are not the floppy ones.
I'm not sure about libre office, but Excel has lookup and lookup. I've not personally used those. But might be of help.
I have the same issue. I want something simple but has encryption, native mobile apps for both Android and iOS, and threading. Facebook style posts with comments would be great.
For now we're using matrix and element bc I can find anything better. Unless something more compelling comes along we'll probably migrate to something xmpp based like snikket.
Has anyone tried selfhosting ente photos? Curious how well it works.
Yeah, I have a 4 port KVM. One for my work issued Surface laptop, one for my mini-pc, one for my Framework 13, and one for any computer that I'm troubleshooting. I'm thinking about moving to my Framework fully and changing the mini-pc into another node for self-hosting setup.
I am one of those gifted folks that enjoy astigmatism. I have tried dark mode and dark themes many times over the years and it just doesn't work for me. The screenshots are gorgeous tho!
Just wanted to share a follow up.
The dock works great under most circumstances. The issue that i have, which was listed by others in reviews for many different docks, is when connected through my KVM. It takes forever to sync up and drive my display. By forever, I mean 30+ seconds most of the time, and occasionally I have to disconnect the cable, open the laptop lid and then reconnect the cable.
Hey all!
A week and a half ago I received by new Framework 13 and posted a quick thought on it. Someone (@[email protected]) asked that I give an update after a bit of use, so I figured a quick note now would be appropriate. I'm thinking I might give some updates again after a couple of months and then at six and twelve months.
I'll make mention of my old personal laptop (HP Envy x360 model 13-yO13-cl) for comparison sake, and my work laptop (Microsoft Surface Laptop 3) as well.
Specs
DIY Framework 13, 13th Gen, i5-1340, 16GB DDR4-3200 RAM, WD_BLACK SN770 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB SSD. Bought without OS and installed Fedora 38 Workstation. For whatever reason, the Live image wouldn't load with Secure Boot enabled. Once installed I was able to turn it back on.
Cooling/Fan
When ever I boot to the "BIOS" boot settings the fan goes crazy. I don't stay in the screen long enough to see if the system gets hot or not. During normal use, the fan doesn't come on, not that I have noticed anyway. It does get a bit warm on the bottom during browsing. I haven't watched a lot of video on it yet. I mostly use it for browsing the web, poking around Gemini space and writing.
Display
I had read a couple of reviews where they mentioned that the hinges were weak. While they are not as stiff as other laptops that I have used in the past, I wouldn't call them flimsy or weak. I can move around the laptop, pick it up and put it down without the screen moving. At the same time, I haven't intentionally tested them by moving quick or jerking it around. I just use it "normally", not taking any extra care that I wouldn't with any laptop.
The screen itself is decent. My last laptop had a glossy screen that was too dark at its brightest and reflected even the most ambient light. Having the keyboard back-light on reflected in the glossy screen. The Framework is matte, so the reflection is a non-issue. I have been using it at about 25% brightness, mostly because I use it at night when it is darker out. Even at that low of a level I am able to use it in normal lighting conditions. When my eyes are tired and the room I'm in is very bright, the Framework screen brightness can be turned up significantly, almost kind of blaring if I'm honest.
I run Fedora 38 with default Gnome at 100% resolution. I love the extra space and the ration is great for working on two documents side by side. I can have my editor open on one half and Firefox open on the other and work comfortably.
Keyboard
I'm putting this here because it made an impact on me. The keyboard backing is nice and firm, so when I bang away at the keys they feel nice and solid. I generally use mechanical keyboards on my desktop computers, so I am used to giving a bit more of a push. Compared to the my HP, they keys feel really nice. The texture of the key caps is not super smooth, giving a bit of resistance to the skin of my finger tips. I've used super smooth keyboard before that made my fingers feel like they were sliding all over the place. These just feel good, solid, responsive. Really nice to use.
I generally don't care about keyboards having back lighting, I'm a touch typist so I don't look at the keys normally. When I got the Framework and realized it had back lighting for the keyboard I tried it out. It has three levels of brightness! That was a surprise. I've used it a couple of times while laying in bed in the dark one-handed. No, stop it, not like that. I was on my side and was propping my head up with the other hand.
Chassis
Another complaint that I had read about was the cheap feeling of the chassis, keyboard cover, etc. People say it feels like plastic, when it is actually aluminum. I can see what they are talking about. While it certainly feels like metal, it doesn't feel as "firm" or "metally" as some other laptops. But I'm satisfied with it. I think that the Frameworks metal is just a bit thinner than others that make if feel cheaper. My old laptop and work laptop both feel "stronger", but also feel a bit heavier.
While I'm talking about the chassis, the Framework is narrower than both my HP and the Surface. Not by a huge margin. It is also "taller" (front to back) than them. It is certainly thicker. All the same, not such a difference to be of importance.
Performance
So far I haven't had any complaints about performance. I don't do a whole bunch of resource intensive stuff. Small database work, writing, and surfing the web.
Bluetooh and Speakers
I was able to connect my Pixel Buds Pro without issue and watch a couple of Youtube videos and listen to an audiobook just fine. I did play a couple of music videos over the Framework's speakers, and yeah, they're not great. Speakers and Bluetooth worked right out of the box with Fedora 38.
Wifi
I've had no issues with the wifi at all. Unlike my old laptop that constantly went into airplane mode if you closed the lid or turned it sideways when moving it, the Framework maintains its connection. Which is probably part of the battery drain, but we'll discuss that later.
Expansion Modules
Such a great idea. I purchased two USB-C, one USB-A, an HDMI, and a 1TB storage drive. Under normal usage I leave out the HDMI; I only got that so that I had the option. I can charge from either of the back slots (left/right), I haven't tried the front slots. (Update as I am writing this: I tried it, I can charge from the front slots as well!) Part of the beauty is the ability to hotswap the modules as I need them. Printer on the left and USB-A module is on the right? Just swap the module to the other side and I'm good to go!
The release button for the modules is on the bottom necessitating picking the laptop up, not a big deal, but I find it annoying for some reason. They can be tough to pull out, which odd when I have had them pop out when trying to remove a cable or thumb drive plugged into them.
Fingerprint Reader
It seems that the 13th generation chips for these require a firmware update that requires Windows (for now). I have interest in installing Windows, even in a VM, just to fix it. I don't miss the functionality since I have never had it on any of my computers, so i am willing to wait for now. We'll see how this plays out in time.
Trackpad
Works as expected. Can't think of anything more to say about it.
Battery
This is the one I see complained about the most. Without any tweaking, I get 5-6 hours on a charge. I don't find that to be a problem for me. My work laptop only gets about four hours, and my other laptop around five. The only laptop that I have ever owned that got better battery life was my Chromebook (Acer c720p, loved that thing, miss it every day). The only thing about the battery that concerns me is the hibernation. I haven't yet had a problem as I have been using it pretty consistently so I've been charging it regularly. But, there are times where I don't use it so much and I worry about how quickly it might run down.
Overall
I love it. I have been very happy with it as a whole. The downsides so far have been minor and don't take away from the overall joy of using it. Here is a little story. The other night I was chatting online in irc and needed to get dinner made. Someone in the chat suggested french fries and I thought, that is a great idea. So I brought my laptop to the kitchen and began making french fires (and other stuff). I got side tracked and let the oil get too hot so when I put in the raw potato slices it shot out a cloud of oil steam and sprayed oil everywhere, including on my laptop. I briefly panicked that the screen would be ruined, then thought to myself, the screen was so easy to install when I got it, it won't be an issue to replace!
I ordered two weeks ago making it into the July batch. Got the shipping notification on Monday and received my laptop today. I ordered the DIY i5 edition with 16GB RAM, two USB-C modules, 1 USB-A, an HDMi, and a 1TB storage.
I unpacked everything and assembled it. It really isn't what I would call a DIY experience, all I had to do was install the RAM, SSD, bezel, and input panel.
I booted to the BIOS and disabled secure boot, added the grub UEFI key from prepared USB drive of Fedora 38. My error was not realizing I re-enabled secure boot when I copied the key. Booting from the USB I kept getting the message that I needed to load the kernel first. After reformatting and re-imaging the USB drive a couple of times, I ended up writing the installer image to the 1TB storage module before I realized my error and disabled secure boot again.
Fedora proceeded to install without issue. I followed the install guide on the framework forums. The fingerprint reader did not work, but everything else seems to work out of the box. Took a few minutes to run dnf upgrade and install some software.
Initial thoughts: I like the keyboard, it feels good with a bit of resistance, the key texture isn't a smooth friction-less plastic, almost more like a velvet feeling, kind of rubbery. Rubbery isn't the right word, but I just can't think of a better way to describe it. The display is much more square than what I am use to, so I am going to reserve my judgement on that for now. The screen is matt, another change that will take time to decide whether or not I like it, but it was something I was looking for. Glossy screens reflect too much when working in the light and require looking at it at just the right angle. Chassis feels solid, a bit of heft but lighter than the HP Spectre 13 that I am coming from. The microphone and camera along the top of the screen have built-in slide covers; I don't remember seeing anything about that when I was looking at the Framework, so it was a pleasant surprise.
Looking forward to share more after I have a chance to really make use of it.
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I have stopped using most of the services that got me into selfhosting. Things like rss and wikis. I try new things from time to time but kill them if I don't find myself using them regularly or if the maintenance cost is more than the value add.