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Humans who run instances are real people who have jobs and mortgages and kids. I also like having piracy communities around to balance the greedy ass corporations trying to control media and copyright…I’m glad to know they are there if I need them or feel like screwing around with it. I just wonder if the people ranting all indignantly acting like instances are competing for their usership would feel the same if the most active instance was on a server physically sitting in their basement, or paid for by money tied to them in the real world. Yes it seems pretty unlikely that you’re ever going to run into issues with law enforcement, copyright claims, lawsuits…but how much would you risk for a fucking hobby you do for free? Would you risk your house? Your job? I would not. Grow up. No one cares what instance you use.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The real issue is that LW has become the de facto front page of Lemmy. No instance should have as many users/communities as they do. It gives them too much power over Lemmy. They could probably kill many instances if they decided to defederate from them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

100% agree. The system wasn’t designed to have a few massive instances…many, including myself, didn’t understand at first and thought Lemmy.world was… Lemmy… Much better to have dozens to hundreds of smaller ones and have a few accounts here and there. It’s probably good for people to realize no one controls the fediverse and separate themselves from the idea of even having a “home” instance for all uses. Maybe.

[–] BURN 5 points 1 year ago

LW is likely the first of a few super instances. The next big migration from Reddit should be pointed at another instance prepared to handle the load.

If the fediverse grows and scales then instances the size of LW will probably be more common. People like to be where the other people are

[–] chatokun 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm having issues registering on others atm. Lemmy.ml said it was closed when I attempted. Lemmy.dbzer0.com appeared ro let me sign up, sent me a verification email, which was accepted, but then every login attempt just cyclew and reloads for me. No error message. Reset password to verify that it was an account, got email, reset password successfully, then same thing.

For something I want to be casually doing, it's kinda annoying.

Edit: dbzer0 just needed time. I saw a mention of authorization, but I guess I just assumed that would happen before the verification email. My bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah the registration flow in Lemmy (on all instances basically) is not that mature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They probably could but if they do so without cause, then likely they will lose users and have others defederate from them, too.

I think when it's easier to migrate accounts between instances, were more likely to see more movement. I had an account on Lemmy.workd and this one. I was hesitant to abandon the world one as I'd already curated blocks and subscribes. It felt like starting over, doing so again elsewhere.

There are now tools to automate but it's not as simple as it should and likely will be and those tools aren't baked in.

I imagine that if that instance is flooded with new users and continues to grow, niche communities may become even more attractive as irrelevant content overpowers what many users want to see. It's also good that new users have a place like that to easily find content, even if it's broader than what will make for a long term community with adult discussion. Both kinds are good.

The only reason I picked Lemmy world is it was one of the listed communities on the Lemmy instance list. It listed by user numbers, so it's likely to stay there, if that website continues to be just a list of instances. The advice is to pick an instance that matches your interests, but few instances are purpose built for that. I'd want to trial Lemmy as a new user before doing that level of research.