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It is illegal and immoral. It steals the rightful intellectual property of directors and developers who are only trying to make a living. If you want to be a thief so badly, then rob a federal bank.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I download something that I never would have paid for anyway, either because I just wouldn't pay for that product, or because I literally cannot pay for that product, who has lost out? I haven't deprived anyone of anything. It's not like I've taken a physical thing away from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but then you create a production problem.

You download it, but that piece of media still had a cost of production. If you don't pay for it then the producers must find other monetization methods.

It's one of the reasons the modern web is based off ads, or why free-to-play with microtransanction is so common.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not suggesting that I do this for everything, or that everyone should do it constantly. For example, I bought Baldur's Gate 3 on release, as it seemed worth it. But Ubisoft's latest shitfest? Probably might be worth a pirate, see if I enjoy it. If I do really enjoy it, I might buy the game. Or I might not, since Ubisoft are a bunch of utter cunts.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Probably might be worth a pirate

But here comes a problem of fairness.

You not only want to play the game, you also want to decide how much is worthed for the producer. If the price is too high, don't play it. Imagine going to a restaurant and saying "sure, cook for me, I'll later pay you if and how much I think it will worthed"

Not only this but:

Or I might not, since Ubisoft are a bunch of utter cunts.

Because you acknowledge the damaging nature of piracy, not only that, you also decide that rules are applied arbitrarily, which is a terrible thing to base your system on.

[–] favrion -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How? I was never going to give them money. Digital files are not a finite resource. How have I deprived them of anything?

[–] favrion -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you didn't properly pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you being obstinate on purpose, or do you really not understand? I would not pay for these files. There is zero per cent chance of this company getting my money. How have they lost out by my copying these files?

[–] favrion -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're an idiot troll, I see.

[–] favrion 0 points 1 year ago

No, I am set in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about a game or movie you've already bought? Are you morality allowed to copy it for your own use in your system?

[–] favrion -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That form of piracy is even legal.