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people posting here are going out of their way to post -- and it feels like every thought has more weight or sanctity or meaning when it's being posted here, at the dawn of a new era and the fall of an old.

i'm spending more time actually reading and engaging with every comment, parsing the details and thinking about it, conceptually. versus just looking at garbage all day, garbage with a little bit of fentanyl in to keep you hooked

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[–] phthalocyanin 71 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"this"

but really, I wonder how much of what we're feeling is the absence of repost bots, and serial karma farmers.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's also the sheer volume of comments on Reddit. There are far fewer people commenting here, so each individual comment stands out more.

[–] SirSnufflelump 14 points 2 years ago

Exactly, I can actually read every comment in a thread and not get bogged down reading 300 comments on the same thing

[–] solstice 2 points 2 years ago

I remember the old days of reddit and slashdot et al. A typical post would have a few dozen or maybe one or two hundred replies. A huge post would have like five or eight hundred replies. A thousand was insane.

These days, 10,000+ is not uncommon. The biggest threads have had tens of thousands of replies. It's insane, the inflation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I was going to say. For now.

But that said, I think the ability to curate community experiences is fundamentally shifted for better or worse by federation. Users, mods, and admins aren't locked in any more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Actually, how does karma or reputation work on lemmy or kbin?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

there's no account karma, only up votes or down votes on specific posts/comments. Maybe that'll reduce karma farmers but then again karma is useless on reddit and yet they still farm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

It will never show an consistent number. The way Activitypub operates is "you see what you're subscribed to", and that occurs in a technical/political sense of "these instances have agreed to federate", and in many cases they don't federate everything that happens. So if someone on instance A upvotes something posted on instance B, but instance C is not subscribed to instance A, A and B will see the upvote, C won't.

You don't have to give up on your clout-chasing dreams, but the numbers won't tell the whole story.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm also curious about this. I have several posts that are upvoted but one that's downvoted and my reputation is negative from that one post :/

Also curious, going to this discussion on lemmy doesn't show kbin replies...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It currently counts the boosts as upvotes instead of the upvote button itself, but the downvote button does count as downvotes which is why that is. I don't remember the exact cause of this at the moment but I'm sure it's only temporary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'm assuming the boosts are for activitypub compatibility with Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh cool. Any thoughts why people posting from other instances shows up to us but those of us on kbin who comment, our posts don't show up on the original instance thread?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I noticed that too but I'm unsure of the technicalities.

At the moment I'm guessing that either comments just don't sync back or that what we see here is only a clone of this post from lemmyworld on here and we're commenting on the clone instead of the original post on their instance.
Those are only wild guesses though since I'm not too familiar with how kbin works but that would be why I personally think this could be.

Anyways the devs are/will be probably working on this too since some other threads have adressed problems with commenting to other instances and or replying to comments of this instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah that would be my guess too. Seems an early stage for this technology but it's really neat, I look forward to it maturing and the devs are doing an amazing job already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It doesn’t. Post or comment votes affect that post or comment.

[–] DulyNoted 1 points 2 years ago

I do think bots are a major culprit. If you look closely, they account for a remarkable amount of the "content".