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In a nod to labor unions, President Joe Biden is moving to boost wages for construction workers on projects paid for with federal funding, a step that would appeal to a key constituency ahead of next year’s presidential election and potentially shrink the pay gap between northern and southern states.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's the over/under on how many of those construction workers will vote Republican in 2024 anyway? Somehow Democrats trying (often imperfectly) to help people gets them nothing but scorn, meanwhile a Republican platform that revolves entirely around taking things away from others is super popular with the blue collar crowd.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

will vote Republican in 2024 anyway

That’s fine, I think they should be paid more, and unlike them my politics isn’t motivated primarily by ruining my political enemies

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I 100% agree that giving them fair wages shouldn't buy their vote. I'm disheartened that they will never question their vote for the party who took them away in the 80s and will do it again if they can.

To clarify - I don't think self-interest should be the only deciding factor in a vote, but it should at least penetrate as a factor. Logically, some of these folks would go "wow, thanks Biden, maybe Dems aren't anti- middle class after all" - but in reality, I'm not holding my breath.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean my view is we’re gonna drag them kicking and screaming into the 21st century because we can’t let them drag us back to the 13th

[–] Fredselfish 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fear to late for that. 99% of Republicans and their voting base are desperately wanting to take us back and want zero progress. And they are winning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ohio vote yesterday gave me some hope at least

[–] Fredselfish 1 points 1 year ago

Some hope lets hope it spreads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It’s just an unfortunate state of affairs

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

When they get this pay boost, their employer and whatever state they're working in will take credit. Democrats are terrible and messaging to it's almost certain that no one will ever tell them that Biden did it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not as bad as people think. There are large numbers of black and Latino construction workers who aren't on board with Republican politics at all. My union is nearly a third Latino and they tend to be some of the most involved in organizing and activism. Also worth saying that less than half of the white guys are conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's all well and good, but keep in mind that only ~11% or so of employees in the US are union. So I'm not sure how representative your experience is of the working population in general.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, GOP has cornered the market on “manliness,” and I think construction workers want that more than money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A "manly" man looks after his family, and his community.

Wanting rights, support and safety for fellow citizens is "manly"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You are correct, but the macho maga crowd sees that stuff as weakness and would rather compete to be the biggest asshole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s sad that people have forgotten the democrats used to be the blue collar party. Trump v. Clinton really reshaped this.