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[–] Riccosuave 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He would have been arrested the night of, held until trial in prison and convicted with in a few months.

The really irritating part is this isn't even conjecture. Over a 1000 convictions have already been secured in connection to January 6th, many of those people were held pending trial, and for fucks sake some of them are already out of prison before Trump has even had his day in court.

Anybody who can't see the hypocrisy in that, and identify how that implicitly constitutes a two tiered justice system is either brainwashed or so full of shit their eyes are brown. Facts matter, accountability matters, democracy is not a given, and it is about god damn time we start taking each of those things seriously.

[–] FuglyDuck 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As somebody with brown eyes….I just want to point out that their shit would be red. from all the koolaide they drink.

Just saying.

But seriously, though. Teixeira (discord leaker) was discovered, identified and arrested within days.

Like you don’t want to know what would have happened to him if he had nuclear secrets of the severity trump had.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teixeira's lawyers are arguing (or were, maybe it was unsuccessful, I haven't kept up) that he did the same thing Trump did essentially and, therefore, should be free on his own recognizance. It's kind of hard to disagree there. Either both deserve to be locked up or both deserve to be let free. It's inconsistent and we all know why.

[–] FuglyDuck 3 points 1 year ago

He's still detained until trial. But I agree, somebody with Trumps possible knowledge on classified shit and blatant criminality... shouldn't be allowed to go play golf with the myriad of foreign nationals he's quite chummy with.

more broadly, I think cash bail needs to go away. either the person is a legitimate flight risk, or they have a high likelihood of committing more crimes... or not. the vast majority of locked up but not convicted people fall into the "or not" category

[–] Riccosuave 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry for the euphemism. I actually thought about that before I posted it, but I didn't have a better one to throw out there so I rolled with it 🙃

As far as the Discord leaker is concerned I think I'm pretty confident that he would have been sentenced to life in prison or potentially even executed if he leaked nuclear secrets on a public forum. That wouldn't be without precedent, and they fucked with Bradley/Chelsea Manning for a looooong time for far less so I'm comfortable making that inference from modern examples.

Whether that is the correct/ethical thing to do is a different matter, but it goes without saying that the punishment would be severe.

[–] FuglyDuck 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's safe to say we have many, many examples of "normal" people to justify burrying trump under gitmo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Here in the United States of Money, the only money that people take money is money