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Vivek Ramaswamy calls Juneteenth 'useless' 2 months after posting a video celebrating it
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I'm curious, what do you think the voting age should be raised to and why?
Republicans want to raise voting age because young people are increasingly realizing that Republicans are authoritarian bigots.
*authoritarian bigots who want to destroy the world for a profit. FTFY
Sure. Let’s also prevent people from voting for the last 25 years of their life unless they serve in the military. /s
I'd love to know too, cause I'm actually for lowering it. If there are 15 year Olds working jobs at fast food restaurants or wherever, they should either a) be able to vote, or b) not have income tax taken out. No taxation without representation.
Even ten years olds know you don't take babies from their mothers at the boarder. Let them vote.
We already had unpassable tests used to disenfranchise people for a long time. I wonder if you don't know about those or just agree with how they were used.
The most ignorant and racist people I know are all over 25, why would you only want it for those under 26?
This is not a personal attack, the truth is I know nothing about you, and my assumption is that you're most likely a decent human being, as most of us strive to be.
The first reason for my comment is that we've already had a series of 'common sense' laws (in the US) that were used to not allow certain people to participate in the electoral process. These were called literacy tests, and you can read about them here and see an example test.
The other reason is that advocating for stripping rights from other people should not be taken lightly. While young people can be misinformed and make silly mistakes, they are old enough to reason things out and understand the consequeces of their actions, and older people are not immune to any of the things that you mentioned.
Furthermore, the issue of young people not having enough knowledge about the civic process falls squarely on the shoulders of those people in their lives that are teaching them. If your their own parents, teachers, and other role models do not stress the importance of these things, it is unreasonable to expect the average person to be interested.
Finally, this idea of raising the voting age has been floated (recently) since the demographics of the last election came back and showed that young people voted in much higher numbers than usual. It is seen by many people as a naked attempt to game the system to keep people who are voting against republicans from casting their most likely dissenting votes.
Look, you didn't do anything wrong here. You expressed yourself, and a lot of people are jaded because there are a lot of people online who just like to rile people up or are being paid to say intentionally inflammatory things, or they're having a bad day, or take your pick. This is how we learn.
When my daughter was born, we asked the nurses about things our parents had taught us that were now considered not the best way to do things. They told us "when we know better, we do better," and that phrase has really stuck with me.
I hope this interaction hasn't turned you off politics in general, and I wish you the best in your future online commenting endeavors.
No matter what political affiliation you have, I would wager that the current mess was not created by 18 year olds voting but older people. So if you want to be ‘fair’ and ‘reasonable’, hoe about we put restrictions on older voters on a sliding and increasingly more difficult scale?
18 - 25 : your good to go 25 - 40 : you need some civics tests 40 - 60 : civic + psycholigical testing 60 - 70 : civics + psychological + dementia testing 70+ : you no longer get to vote as your time has past and consequences are no longer your concern yet can harm upcoming generations
If you want limitations and testing, this is a fair proposal. I guess you would logically have to agree with this, yes?
Why raise the voting age? Are we not paying income tax at 18 anymore?
All 3 are crazy, you just happened to find the one that was too crazy for you.
Less than half of 18-24 year olds even vote* and you want to decrease that further?
*source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/