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For those who are wondering, yes, Wine is malware compatible so be careful about the EXEs you run!

https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Is_Wine_malware-compatible.3F

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[–] Sputnik34 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I just got a real bad malware on my windows PC and I'm legit considering using Linux as a response. What's the best into to someone who isn't a programmer but understands computers relatively well enough?

[–] gingernate 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Try a few different distros. People often recommend Mint for a beginner. I use Fedora personally, I also like Debian, it's stable but a bit boring and can be outdated. You can also creat a bootable live USB and try before you install!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tbh, I consider "a bit boring" a pretty good feature for an OS. "Exciting" usually means dozens of hours to fix simple things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LTS releases get more and more attractive with age.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That is very trueˆˆ

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Depends on how new your hardware is - distros with new kernels work much better on many brand new machines.

[–] CoffeeVector 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To clarify, because I think this would be pretty confusing for someone who isn't already into Linux.

So a "distro" is short for a distribution of linux. Strictly speaking, Linux is just a kernel which is a technical component of an operating system. A few different organizations have taken the Linux kernel and added the necessary additions to turn it into a typical PC operating system e.g. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, CentOS, Arch Linux, Manjaro Linux. Some are harder to get set up and some are plug and play. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and Manjaro are considered to be "easy" to set up. Arch Linux is typically considered the hardest.

But how do you actually install it? (1) choose the distro. (2) download the .iso file from their website (a few gigabytes). (3) burn it into a spare usb flash drive to make a "live boot usb". (4) go into your BIOS and select to boot from your usb instead of your typical hard drive. Now you should be in your chosen distro. Conside this a sandbox that is contained to only your flashdrive. If you shutdown and remove the flash drive, nothing would change. (5 optional) play around and try it out. Do you like it? (6) Double click the installer on the desktop to install it on your hard drive for-real.

A note on step (3), you can find guides for this online. My favorite software that does this on windows is rufus.

A note on step (4), everyone's BIOS looks a little different. You can search "how to change boot options on XYZ" for your laptop/motherboard.

A note on step (6), if you really hate windows, you're free to nuke it, but your installer will give you the option to "install alongside windows" which will let you choose which OS to boot into on startup. This is known as "dual booting". It's the option with less commitment, but sometimes minor issues come up that requires troubleshooting (windows likes to fuck shit up when it updates).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you're planning on keeping Windows intact and you have a spare drive lying around I recommend temporarily removing your main SSD and installing the distro on the spare. This will prevent potential bootloader issues if you decide Linux isn't your daily driver. The downside is if you want to swap OSes you'll need to select the drive you want to boot from in BIOS.

[–] gingernate 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome thanks! Great info!

[–] Im_old 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Starting out I'd say linux mint with a cinnamon desktop.

[–] Sputnik34 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] AlbyEvent 6 points 1 year ago

The standard version of Linux mint is with Cinnamon. Desktop environments are basically how your desktop looks. Cinnamon looks similar to Windows, and Mint is newbie friendly, so you will have no problem moving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linux has a bunch of different "desktop environments" (user interfaces that look and act somewhat different). Cinnamon is one of them that happens to feel relatively familiar to folks migrating from Windows.

(If you want to get a feel for what different DEs are like, try downloading different variants of the Ubuntu distribution — plain Ubuntu (with the GNOME DE), Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (XFCE), Lubuntu (LXDE), etc. — which differ only in which DE they come with by default. Run them straight off a flash drive to try them out.)

Personally, I tend to use KDE, but it's a choice very much based on personal taste rather than any objective superiority of one DE over another.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where does that idea come from that you have to be a programmer to use Linux? Is it because it's sometimes faster to type a command? That's not programming. It's the same way that it's faster to type your text that to get a voice recognition program to input it correctly.

[–] Sputnik34 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk I just get the vibe that it's a "programmers OS" I'm sure that I'm wrong, especially after looking more into it but that outsider opinion isn't unwarranted IMO especially after looking at something like Arch

[–] AnUnusualRelic 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are a lot more programmers running Windows than Linux though. :)

[–] Sputnik34 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's like... 1/10 the amount of people on Linux as a whole

[–] AnUnusualRelic 2 points 1 year ago

It kind of depends where you look.

Home desktop users, sure. Servers... Unless you have a really good reason, running a Windows server is a weird idea nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you're on Linux, you're probably downloading apps through your package manager, or things like Flathub/Snap Store. These places are generally much safer than random .exes on the internet anyways, so just keep being cautious and you'll be fine.

[–] Fungah 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing happened to me last year. Right into the uefi. Spent months fighting it after it got into phones,, laptops, Linux Windows, whatever. Eventually got it gone and had been (trying mostly) to use Linux during the whole fiasco. During one of about 150 reinstalls of windows I couldn't remember my password and wasn't getting any of the password reset emails I was repeatedly requesting.

I was locked out of my own fucking computer with nothing to do but reinstall windows. The same shit could happen with Linux except I wouldn't have an expectation that a fucking password reset button would work.

That was the part straw for me. I viewed never to use windows again unless I absolutely had to.

And now that I've gotten thang of it: I fucking love Linux. I'm continually learning more about both Linux and computers. I feel like I'm peeling back later after layer after layer of useful interesting shit that windows purposefully kept from me.

Parts of the learning process were rough, not going to lie, but my god. I fucking love the command line. I just love it.

[–] Sputnik34 1 points 1 year ago

How would I know if the malware got into my Wi-Fi???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mint or Pop!_OS if you use nvidia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

PopOs Nvidia version is amazing for common gaming laptops.

[–] Sketchpad01 1 points 1 year ago

Zorin OS is a personal favorite. Don't worry about the paied version, just get the free one. You can get everything on the paid version for free, it's just so thr deevs can get some support

[–] Obline 1 points 1 year ago

Pop_OS!

It's not the best (technically), but its defaults have great compatability and work essentially everywhere.

Search how Pop_OS! Looks though, because it looks quite different to Windows (and you might want something that looks like Windows).

If you want a taskbar like Windows, use Kubuntu (and don't touch many settings or the terminal, KDE has a habit to break if you don't know what your doing) or Cinnamon.

Kubuntu is modern, highly customizable and comes with good defaults. It'll also scale well if you want to put in the time.

Cinnamon has a slightly more outdated look, but it's built ontop of the same base as Kubuntu, so it should work out of the box without any customization. It's good for beginers, and reasonably hard to break (for Linux). But it's not as customizable and won't scale as well as Kubuntu if you want to deep dive into Linux at some point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My personal pick is Nobara (which is fedora but with easy codecs and driver install script). But anything Ubuntu or Fedora bases is going to work great (From what I remember Nobara and POP_OS! Have great Nvidia support out of the box)