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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, what I said then.

This is a good example of why people who identify as conservative shouldn't be trying to moderate LGBTQ+ spaces, even if they identify somewhere in that spectrum themselves. Conservatism at its heart is fundamentally focused on determining how other people do not belong to your "in" group and do not deserve the same privileges and rights as you do. Put more famously, "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

You're not quite doing it here with your really badly couched transmedicalist take and your skirting around actually saying what you mean, but we all know what you mean so I'm not sure why you're being so coy about it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatism at its heart is fundamentally focused on determining how other people do not belong to your "in" group and do not deserve the same privileges and rights as you do.

Definitely not unique to conservativism. I think that's just a facet of humanity. Modern day progressivism is infamous for shooting itself in the foot with purity tests.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. People do have a strong tendency to do that, yes. Conservativism is about that, it enshrines that. You can have leftism without infighting. You can have LGBTQ+ without radical exclusion. You cannot have conservativism without exclusion of outgroups.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's an excellent point, you're totally right. I just did a "both sides". There's a massive difference between the two, and I shouldn't have equated them.