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Why YSK: It appears several Lemmy Instances are flagged as suspicious and at least 1 instance intentionally using the name of ransomware. A couple of the big enterprise monitoring suites (Fortiguard, ZScaler) will flag your account and may end up with you being pulled into an office for an explanation, or worse.

TL;DR: Keep browsing to your local instance at work for now.

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[–] JimmySpace 91 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Why do people use work computers anymore when cellphones exist?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I've worked a job that required using an app on my phone, and in order to install that app I had to give ROOT ACCESS and full remote control to the IT department and was subject to the same monitoring as when using a company desk or laptop. I just grabbed an older phone I had lying around and used that for work because I wasn't about to give complete remote access to the phone I actually used every day.

[–] Tangent5280 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why did the company not supply the phone to be used for company purposes?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They were cheap bastards and were forever "in the process of getting" new company phones for brand new hires like I was at the time.

[–] Captain_Nipples 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck that. Our company gives us phones because they know they're secure. And we don't use them for anything but work related apps. I still make all my phone calls from my personal or office phone

I say, "We," but that's not entirely true. There are a couple of jackasses that do everything on them, but I assume the company can see it of they want to. So, fuck that

[–] sirnak 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This does not sound legal. What country are we talking about?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US. California, specifically.

[–] creditCrazy 5 points 1 year ago

It's ridiculous how we call ourselves the land of the free unless you want to bike to work, drive a small car, have privacy or do anything different/differently from everyone else is not ok here

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, your job required root access to your personal cell phone phone at all times? So if you were at home off the clock you were still restricted on your personal phone as to what websites you could view?

[–] PainInTheAES 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also a legal issue. If something happens legally that's work related and your phone becomes part of the discovery process someone would sift through your personal data

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean that's one thing to have access as part of an investigation, but to have remote access to it 24/7 seems excessive.

[–] leo85811nardo 7 points 1 year ago

If you are android, there is an app called Shelter that lets you create customized contained work profile inside which apps can be killed completely until you enable work profile again. This would usually be enabled by certain official app by your employer's IT policy, such as MS's Company Policy, so you don't normally have control over what app to put in the profile, but with Shelter you can pick and choose any app into the work profile freely. If you have other apps you don't trust, you can also use it to contain them too

[–] Serinus 2 points 1 year ago

I use a Pixel 1 for the same purpose. It's just a couple authentication apps in my case, but I still don't want their shit on my personal phone.

Not sure why they've got to use proprietary shit instead of just using standards. I even offered my own Yubikey.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phone got small screen. Computer got big screen.

[–] Captain_Nipples 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My work laptop just got replaced, and what's great is the dock that came with it. It only connects to my laptop thru a USB C. So. Now I unhook my laptop, and plug my phone into it, which uses Dex. It's like Samsung's own desktop OS. And I can use my big screens and keyboard and mouse

I also make sure my phone isn't using the network cable plugged into it and only use my own internet. I don't think it'd let me anyways

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you like dexs? Would you consider using it as a daily driver? I mean not having a laptop at all.

[–] Captain_Nipples 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. It's okay for some just casual internet browsing and a few apps that are made for it, and I think you can use Office on it, but I've only used it to entertain myself at work. If you had access to a laptop or PC, you can plug a USB cable into any of the flagship Samsung phones and test it out.

Itd be nice if more people used it though, so itd get more support

If you're familiar with Linux at all, there are some versions you can put on a rooted Android phone, and use it like a Linux PC. I never tried it, but I know it was a thing about 10 years ago, and I'm sure it's still being worked on

[–] shizomou 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't even connect to my work's wifi

[–] ilickfrogs 6 points 1 year ago

See I'd connect, but it would be on a VPN the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I'm not personally surfing Lemmy on my work computer, but larger screen + physical keyboard and mouse.

[–] Bakachu 10 points 1 year ago

They might work in a place that doesn't allow personal electronic devices (government, military, high-security site, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I worked for a small earmold company that made hearing aids and plugs. The PC I used had zero security. I decked it out with every possible imaginable tool to make my job easier, even had it where I could vpn in and do work from home, and while I didn't utilize this feature, the ceo's son did after I told him about it for a few weeks after I quit.

Our HR manager constantly asked for email counts each day, so I automated a spreadsheet for her. I set a webcam up in an office with a laser engraver so I knew when the staff would put molds down for engraving without being in the room. I had syncthing cloning directories and a virtual desktop. I'd often model blender models on lunch and sync them back to my nas. Sometimes I'd make custom things for the company, then 3D print them and bring them in the next day.

I had waaaasay too much power, though. I could go pick through the company samba server, look at anything, potentially delete everything. They kept backups on dated copies made on external drives and deleted everything four years old.

[–] Elektrotechnik 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm visiting other companies for work every now and then.

If they are in a fancy new steel-and-concrete office building with open space offices, chances are that cell reception is very bad. I once was in an office where I'm certain they had installed cell blockers on the toilets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think my workplace had that until they realized that it also stopped management from being reachable. Fucking lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have a work account on programming.dev, using the internet for work is pretty common.