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A while ago I had an Ender 3 Pro which I upgraded with a BL-Touch and self-printed parts. It worked great and was reliable but not something I would call plug and play.

Is there a clone that's relatively plug and play? I don't mind assembling but don't want constant readjustments.

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[–] CypherPsycho 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Klipper literally took me 15 minutes to set up wtf are you even on? I've used prusas and many other printers with klipper or marlin and honestly I like Prusa the least. The price makes no difference to me, and I don't need "support". I'm not some moron buying something I don't know how to use. So maybe for someone who has no clue what they're doing and wants to set something up quick / have every answer spoonfed to them, Prusa is the way to go. But frankly, the only good thing about Prusa is their slicer. And the forks are better than the stock slicer anyways.

Prusa is not as good as it used to be. I can get prusa clones for 1/5 the price that perform exactly the same.

Even configuring klipper firmwares for my custom voron builds doesn't take too long....

[–] rambos 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mate calling people morons because they buy a device and dont know how to use it is kinda funny, especcially if we talk about 3D printers. I bet you were one when you started, I was and most of people were. Im in this hobby 10+ years and still learning. When first DIY printers were made with threaded rods and zip ties people knew less than we do right now, but they were extremely important for us to have decent hoby machine at home that normal people can afford. Also talking like that about prusa and 1/5 price knockoffs performing the same feels like you have 0 experience with cheap knockoffs. Maybe you wanted to say 4/5 or 3/5? Support is not just about leveling your bed, good support can mean you get what you payed for and replacement parts if they are faulty. Cheap knockoffs tend to send faulty parts or frame and then not responding to email. Cheap knockoffs tend to clone brands like prusa, but they miss some important bits and then sell bad design that just look simmilar. Im not favoring prusa, I dont like bed slingers at all, but its the name that has been around for many years with good reputation. I dont want to be rude, but this is 3D printing forum for any skill level and mostly hoby/home machines. Building a voron is already advanced, but your suggestions are opposite of usefull for begginers.

OP had ender and he is looking for another device that is more plug&play and you suggest ender level machine or even cheaper. Its just wrong IMO

[–] CypherPsycho -1 points 1 year ago

I'd rather have an ender 3 CLONE than a prusa. $100 of upgrades and it's already better than a prusa. I don't give a fuck if the parts are tested, I don't care if their extruder is a little better stock, or that they come with PEI bed out of box. And I don't need support. Google has infinite resources, and paying 10x more for a printer so I can email some schmuck and have him send me a $20 replacement part is not worth it. I'd rather just order it online and get it in 2 days regardless, most of the time.

I've never had to have a single part replaced. I've upgraded things, but in my 5 years of printing I've never had anything fail. I had creality send me another bed because I dropped it on tile and the corner got fucked up.

Actually, I lie. I had to buy a replacement z axis bar because it was slightly bent... cheap easy and quick fix.

I never actually suggested anything to OP btw, I just don't suggest a prusa. There is nothing that can convince me a prusa is anything but overpriced garbo.