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So let me get this straight. Not only do they pull all US support and US intelligence from Ukraine, leading to the Russians seeing it as their moment to throw everything they’ve got at Ukraine (as they’ve lately done in record numbers). Now they want to send back refugees to this country as Russia tries to bomb the shit out of every civilian target they can find? All to just pressure zelensky to surrender?
I know there are good Americans but man… fuck all y’all just watching your king doing this shit
Yes... We'll just leave our apartments on the west side of the US, drive for 3+ days to the White House on the east coast with our $300 paychecks and while we're gone we'll lose our apartments & livelihoods because we aren't working our 8+ hour day shifts making minimum wage. Then after we're done protesting and burning shit we'll go home to our now homeless family.
That is the reality a lot of us are living in. A good amount of Americans can't rise up because they have a family that would be on the street after 1 missed paycheck.
Yes...that's EXACTLY what should be happening right now. The fact that you (not personally, but collectively) can't even take 1 day without losing everything in your life should be enough to want to demand change immediately.
Yeah I know they got you good and screwed, I feel for you. I really do. Not advocating anything of course but the French had this strange contraption called a g-something. Jokes aside it’s not only the White House and trump. He seems to have more or less domesticated your entire political landscape, bar a few.
*I’ve talked to some American friends in a shituation not unsimilar to yours, some of them all they can do is call or email their rep or congressman. Politicians are spineless and can rarely tell right from wrong themselves, what they need to know is they have the people behind them if they try to challenge a king. For that to happen the people need to get loud. Others are able to stir more shit or try to form/join unions or go out on the streets and tell them what’s up.
Not everyone can do the same thing but most have some form of way getting loud.
Put dog poop in their mailboxes. No dog? Get innovative.
What the actual fuck do you think we can do? Do you have any concept of how large and disconnected the United States actually is?
We don't have a unified banner to fight under. Most of us reasonable people are not armed. Even if we were, most of us are untrained.
Protests do nothing to this guy. Boycotts don't do shit. Burning things doesn't help. So what, pray tell, in your infinite wisdom, should we do?
Burning shit seems to work well when done in large enough quantities, see France.
Yeah, but again, the USA is 18 times the size of France. Coordinate burning shit on that scale.
I'm theoretically amenable. I am also realistic.
Texas is 20% larger than France. Texas is the second largest state in the USA.
And?
Im adding emphasis to your comment. The USA is so large that our second biggest state is substantially larger than Europe’s second largest nation-state.
What do you recommend burning first?
The French usually start with cars
Any particular cars?
Don't know, I'm not French myself. Why not Teslas and those big trucks and SUVs? Police cars would probably also do well.
You mad now love to see it. Use that and yell at someone IRL instead of some nerd online
Pay your debt and stop spending on anything: not for a few days but for 1-3 trimester or even more. Use your car less often and use a bike instead is also a way to spend less in gaz and in future healthcare. Grow a garden and maintain your house yourself. Leave most mainstream social media and use open source software. Volunteer in your community and stay informed with reliable sources… Only for those in Canada can we then add : buying made in Canada from Canadian owned business as best as your financial situation will let you. We Canadian will boycott US for the next decade at least.
In a war fighting is important but preparedness and logistics are what makes fighting effective: be prepared and starve your opponent economy is what happens in this phase of the war.
I have zero debt. I pay for shit in cash or don't buy things I cannot afford. 6 years ago I built a tiny home off grid on a plot of land outside of the city. I don't have mainstream socials: I quit them in 2018. Need I go on?
You're suggesting average people just "pay off their debts" as if that's a viable path for someone living paycheck to paycheck. We're largely struggling here.
The top 0.1% have 50% of the wealth in this country. The top 1% have 90%. Work that out, guy.
None of what you suggested will stop Trump. Nothing you suggested will change his actions. He's entrenching himself as dictator.
Good for you to be mostly independent, help people around you reach some of these objectives themselves. Build a network of likeminded people.
You can debate between American when and how to actually fight for your country and your freedom. As for me in Canada this isn’t a preoccupation for me because i won’t be involved in your internal struggle. As a last idea may I suggest an old French sharp device?
you're absolutely gonna be looking at american refugees and illegal immigrants in a few years