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Summary

Secretary of State Marco Rubio grew visibly frustrated during an ABC News interview when questioned about the Trump administration’s approach to Russia.

Defending Trump’s push for peace talks with Putin, Rubio insisted negotiations were necessary but admitted the administration didn’t know Russia’s demands.

He clashed with host George Stephanopoulos over Trump’s refusal to call Putin a dictator and the U.S. siding with Russia in a recent UN vote.

Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

As a European, only the complete collapse of the Russian federation in an acceptable outcome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

What would be the best way for that to happen? More specifically, how can we pull this off safely?

We have very little historical precedent to go on. The USSR collapsed in 1991. There was some nervousness around what was going to happen with all their nukes. Ultimately, we ended up with Russia, led by Putin.

How would we stop Putin from triggering nuclear retaliation?
If we stop that, how do we make sure some other oligarch doesn't immediately take his place?
If Russia were to completely collapse, what would happen to Russia? Would we be willing to let China take over? If not would we be willing to maintain an indefinite occupation of Russia?

There may be good answers to all of these questions. It seems the more practical solution is to contain Russia. Do you think the EU would be ready to adopt a constitution if it came up again?

[–] rottingleaf -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Suppose there's a cockroach colony in a residential building. Separating it into few parts is not going to do much good. If you mean that by collapse - same elites retaining power - then it's just not good enough.

And if you mean removing them, rich natural resources have proven to be good for those who have them and bad for those who don't, so no.

Turning it into a real federation or even confederation - yes. Like Germany.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic 4 points 4 hours ago

I mean the russian people doing to Putin and the oligarchs what the Libyans did to Gaddafi.