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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/5292633

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The original was posted on /r/science by /u/calliope_kekule on 2025-03-01 05:53:17+00:00.

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[–] CosmoNova -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh so I don‘t have to worry about China‘s increasing emissions output because they use unhinged mass surveillance and terror against the people to put a band-aid on it. Cool…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Doesn't China emit like half the amount of carbon per capita compared to the US?

[–] mineralfellow 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China has a very large capita.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

China already "solved" it with the one child policy. They will have the most massive population decline ever in the coming decades. It will probably destroy their economy.

[–] finitebanjo 2 points 1 day ago

It's not that there should be a solution per se, more that it impacts their emissions per capita. When person density goes up average per person emissions go down, simple as.

[–] Bloomcole 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, and they are by far the best in green energy
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-record-surge-of-clean-energy-in-2024-halts-chinas-co2-rise/ And it would be even worse for the US and others if they would produce all the stuff they out now outsource to China.
It's a typical Chinophobe 'at what cost' commenter.
There is literally nothing they can do right.

[–] HereIAm 0 points 1 day ago

One issue with that is China is still a heavily bike and moped driven country. The issue is when more of their population is able to afford cars. So they could still "catch up".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would be happy for sensors at traffic lights that detect whether cars are there or not. I don't consider that to be meaningful surveillance.

[–] CosmoNova 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they already have sensors. That‘s not what China differentiates from the rest here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Did you read the article? Standard traffic cameras or sensors are all you need to implement this. And yes, most places have the technology already in place to do most of it. You just need to add the part to network them and control the lights.

[–] Bloomcole -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course there has to be a sore loser China bad commenter with some made up BS

[–] CosmoNova 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am used to tankies on Lemmy but man, if you say China isn‘t an Orwellian surveillance state you‘re just lying through your teeth.

[–] Bloomcole 0 points 23 hours ago

I expect nothing better from someone who uses the word tankie and parrots western propaganda.
I bet you also use "+100 social credits" and been told about this imaginary spying system. Show me proof of this "Orwellian surveillance state".

I know the land Orwell comes from has the most survaillance ameras in the world per capita and nice facial recognition vans driving around and parked in front of stations.
and if you're a germ you shouldn't really be talking.
Always on the wrong side of history.
Try protesting genocide and see if you won't get violently beat up.