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[–] Allonzee 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don't forget this either:

We weren't some benevolent force for good in WW2. People love pointing it out as if we proactively fought for good.

The Axis thankfully committed the greatest strategic blunder of the 20th century hands down and sunk our Naval fleet. They brought the fight to us. The US was quite fond of eugenics and practiced it in asylum before and after WW2.

We fought back. That isn't being a hero, that isn't coming to save the day. That's self-preservation.

The closest we've ever been to the good guys was at our founding, and even that was complicated.

[–] Doomsider 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is far far worse than this. Wealthy people in the US bankrolled the Nazi party. We created the problem. When the Nazi approached the nations of the world to take in the Jews before the final solution these same people lobbied to make sure no one would take them.

[–] towelie 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The German aristocracy bankrolled Hitler as well. It sorta sounded like you were implying that didn't happen.

Hitler disbanded the trade unions at the behest of heads of industries. Industry showed its gratitude with the 'Adolph Hitler Fund', to which the companies paid a % of turnover.

From 1933 onward 100 million reichsmarks were paid to Hitler every year, which would have made him a billionaire by today's standards.

[–] Doomsider 2 points 1 day ago

Sure they did, the issue is they didn't have the money to make it happen. It would be very interesting to see who gave the most money to the Nazis. I am guessing US citizens were the largest contributor, but without any actual data it is just an educated guess.

This only goes to highlight how wealth inequality has created the environment for some of the worst atoricities. Why is it the wealthy seem to help start, fund, and benefit from all our modern wars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

To be fair: The US did join the European theater despite having their hands full across the Pacific.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah the US joined late. I'm just saying that since then, the US hasn't even done anything accidentally good.