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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That was the literal plan the entire time and it was clearly outlined to happen. Stop being stupid

[–] Eldritch 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm with you. We all knew this would happen because were all politically engaged and moderately informed. Your average person isn't. And the media does this on purpose. And yes it is definitely cathartic to point laugh and ridicule them for their obvious ignorance. I wish we could figure out a way to break through that ignorance. We'd be doing ourselves a lot more good than catharsis.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

GOP strategist and member of Black Americans for Trump Coalition

I would expect someone like this to be politically informed. I think it’s fair to say to this person “Stop being stupid”.

[–] Eldritch 5 points 6 days ago

Yes that's probably fair. They would have to be willfully ignorant at that point I would think.

[–] CharlesDarwin 6 points 6 days ago

I wish we could figure out a way to break through that ignorance.

Same. It's been this slow walk into 2025, listening to people in man on the street interview and seeing polls on sentiments and so on, and now this.

It hasn't even been two weeks and you see videos of the average donvict supporter doing videos (like that one mother that went viral about her benefits being cut off) about how they cannot believe they voted for this (but they did, they just weren't paying any attention to what the Republicans are really about).

It's infuriating. I also cannot help but wonder - even if this country survives the next four years under these monsters - will any of the voters that voted for donvict, or stayed home/protest voted because "bothsides" - will any of them learn any lessons and never vote for a Republican, ever? And make sure they vote for Democrats?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trump has been dragged to court for his blatant racism in the 70s. That's plenty of time to inform yourself.

[–] Eldritch 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Again if you weren't in the New York area. Or highly online/ informed your average person surprisingly isn't going to know that. The 4th estate has failed us for decades. It's gotten worse recently but it's not been good or healthy for a long time

[–] CharlesDarwin 6 points 6 days ago

Yep, even after all this, a whole lot of people just know donvict from that reality game show he was given, and think he's "good at business" or something, when nothing could be further from the truth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not even on the same continent and I knew this for a long time. They had their chance.

Edit: besides that, they're an organized group of voters for Trump. Even if this would have been some highly inaccessible knowledge, that is just a laughably weak argument.

[–] Eldritch 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Consider that you may have had better, and less biased when it comes to foreign affairs media. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Still I don't have a lot of sympathy for these people. It doesn't take a lot of effort to be basically informed. But so many people don't consume information unless it's spoon fed to them. And that isn't happening here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Nah, sorry. They happily marinated themselves to be a tastier snack for the leopards. You don't organize to vote for someone and keep the privilege to be excused for slightly inaccessible into.

[–] generallynonsensical 4 points 6 days ago

You can fix ignorance. But you can't fix stupid.