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Chinese drone company DJI has removed its geofencing feature that automatically restricted drone flights over sensitive areas, like airports, wildfires, and government buildings, replacing it with dismissible warnings.

The decision follows growing distrust in Chinese-made drones and U.S. regulatory changes.

DJI argues this empowers operators while aligning with global standards, but critics worry it could endanger safety, particularly for unaware pilots.

Previously, geofencing helped prevent incidents, like a DJI drone crash at the White House in 2015.

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[–] glimse 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The drones a terrorist would use to attack a government building doesn't even have GPS. They'd build racing drones, not use an off-the-shelf camera drone

[–] SpruceBringsteen 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Exactly what I'm saying.

Geo fencing is only one layer of defense. It's necessary and useful to some degree, but it should be a part of a whole system. It's place in the system is literally that of a fence.

The most sensitive places are going to need some active form of defense. There are fiber optic drones, good luck even trying to scramble them.

I just hope one of the layers is falcons.

[–] glimse 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep! That said, that drone flying into a plane over the wildfires is a pretty great example of why geofencing SHOULD exist. You don't have to have malicious intent to cause destruction...I can see someone's drone getting sucked into an engine while they're trying to get an amazing shot of a plane taking off

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren’t there TFRs over fire fighting activities?

Also, any semi-busy to busy airport is generally towered. If you are flying into controlled air space without talking to tower…. You’re going to get charged with a federal crime

[–] glimse 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think so? I don't fly commercially (I have a racing and "indoor" drone) so I'm not sure.

And yeah, it's a felony. But a felony doesn't undo the damage.

I'm not advocating either way, I see both sides of the argument as having good points

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, multi engine planes should be able to fly without one engine. It’s still an emergency, but they should be able to get down.

In that situation, the UAV operator should have to pay for the repair on top of a punitive fine/jailtime (this is my opinion and is not backed by law).

On take off? The plane is pretty screwed. Single engine planes are also screwed in general Hitting a prop is catastrophic.

But you’re right - it doesn’t undo the damage.

I guess the takeaway is to talk to ATC when you’re at a controlled airfield

[–] glimse 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's an interesting situation to me because I really don't know where I stand on it. I'm pretty against government overreach but it's proven time and time again that we live amongst morons who think they know best...

I guess the "political climate" lately has me on edge but I really do think I'll see a civilian-flown drone accidentally cause an aviation catastrophe in my lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, unfortunately aviation rules are written in blood so someone will have to die before the government imposes new restrictions so government overreach won’t be an issue.

Do drones have ADS-B transponders?

[–] glimse 2 points 2 weeks ago

Mine don't but they're not regulated. I looked it up,

Some type of remote ID may be required in the future, but how the system would work and the requirements has not been finalized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fiber optic drones? There’s a cable running from the controller to the drone? Jeez.

[–] jumperalex 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You must not be paying attention to the reports out of Ukraine and how both sides are resorting to fiber feeds to avoid all the jamming. It isn't really even a new concept as it existed way back in the Vietnam War days on the TOW missile; albeit it using wire not fiber optics. Oh yeah and the TOW is currently in use in the Ukraine war right now apparently if you believe wikipedia; but I can't back that one up myself.

ETA: actually there's this https://web.archive.org/web/20230331103558/https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1637833178579607552 but seems to be the non-wire guided model. Go figure ;-)