I have no idea about the game and whether it actually contains gambling content or is just being auto flagged due to the title but this kind of crap is why I hate big tech and is why I hope we eventually have a future where decentralized services rule over big tech.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’s a strategy/puzzle/autobattler game.

It’s loosely gambling themed in that it uses one of those pull the handle spiny wheel mechanics to draw your “units” for the turn and has some gambling iconography.

The issue here would be overreactive governments setting rules about gambling and children, being unable to differentiate a game game and a lootbox machine.

[–] other_cat 2 points 20 hours ago

Doing absolutely nothing about lootboxes though.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

IMO a gambling label should only be considered if there's is real money involved in the game combined with chance (ie: lootboxes)

Making the rating boards only look at the old-fashioned method of gambling (casino or casino-themed mecanism) while disregarding the monetary factor doesn't help anyone.

[–] Kelly 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Its a themed slot machine with fictionalised in game currency.

Defeat your landlord in this slot machine roguelike deckbuilder!

If rated today Australia would give it R18+, but it was reviewed before last years changes so it has been grandfathered in at M with the description "Simulated Gambling".

https://www.classification.gov.au/about-us/media-and-news/news/new-classifications-for-gambling-content-video-games

Simulated gambling seems to have been grouped in as an adjacent issue as some jurisdictions regulate loot boxes.

Balatro is in a similar position in Australia where it is PG on the play store, M on switch and would be R18+ if reviewed today.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I would just like to add that Australia has the world’s worst gambling IIRC. Our govt is happy to fuck over peoples lives and take money from gambling but a videogame loosely related is a serious issue in need of stopping.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is hard to see how the slot machine in LBALL can be gambling when you are guaranteed to profit on every spin (unless you've intentionally designed a machine where you can win nothing, but that seems like your fault). Gambling involves risking a stake, but in almost every configuration of the machine that you'll encounter during normal play there is no risk, you are guaranteed to make more than it costs to spin. The challenge is to make enough to stay ahead of the landlord.

[–] Kelly 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Simulated Gambling:
Interactive activity within a game that:
a) resembles or functions like a real world age restricted betting or gambling service; and
b) does not provide rewards that can be redeemed for real world currency or traded to other players in-game for real world currency.

Note: For example, interactive activity within games that resembles or functions like real world commercial casinos, slot machines, lotteries, sports betting services or other betting services will be simulated gambling.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/F2023L01424/asmade/text

As far as Australia is concerned the mere appearance of a slot machine is enough, it doesn't need to function like one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The more I hear about regulations in Australia, the more certain I am that their leaders lack the ability to distinguish nuance in any capacity.

Otoh, maybe it's the rest of us who are out of touch and need to do more to protect the children.

[–] Adalast 1 points 23 hours ago

We are talking about the country who's leaders tried to ban flat chested women from porn because they "look too much like children".