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[–] gmtom 2 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Well the theological explanation is that what we consider evil or suffering is just a necessary function of God's world.

Would a world truly without any sort of hardship or strife be worth living in?

[–] Fandangalo 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Isn’t what you described heaven?

[–] nieminen 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is fantastic, I've never seen this response to that question.

[–] Fandangalo 5 points 3 days ago

My personal faith involves Alan Watts’ thought experiment on God.

God made heaven, had everything, and it got boring. So God made a new adventure where god is challenged, but they always succeed. But this too became boring.

So God, with infinite power, imagined a world where they forgot they were god. They didn’t know what would happen next.

And that is the adventure you and I live in now. Eventually, we’ll get back to heaven / nirvana / reconciliation with God, and then go on another adventure.

[–] gmtom 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yes, and it can be argued that God makes us live an earthly life before we go to heaven for exactly the purpose of understand strife and hardship so we can understand and appreciate heaven.

I should say I'm not religious nor am I anything close to an expert on theology.

[–] valkyre09 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Makes perfect sense. I make my kids sleep outside 2 days a week so they can appreciate the warm home I provide them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Builds character. And Lyme's disease.

[–] bitjunkie 4 points 3 days ago

Evil doesn't exist so clearly you are an excellent parent

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I remember when my parents took me camping too. It actually did indeed make me appreciate modern creature comforts more and gave me a healthy appreciation for camping/wilderness/nature, oddly enough.

[–] gmtom -2 points 3 days ago

Do you give your kids everything they ever want? Do you never have to force your kids into doing things they don't like, such as long journeys or school or brushing their teeth?

[–] bitjunkie 11 points 3 days ago

It can also be argued that bronze age peasants made this shit up because they were afraid of thunderstorms

[–] Supervisor194 4 points 3 days ago

Not that any discussion of theology makes any logical sense, but then why did angels get a pass? They have free will, they do not suffer or have evil and they live for eternity in heaven. Are they somehow... deficient because they didn't get a turn on a hellish Earth? Did God figure out he made a mistake doing it that way and switch to the Crucible Version? Oh, there's that pesky lack of omnipotence again.

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